Posted by Joe K. Perez: 
If my lighting is superb and my model looks like a pretty Racoon, does it make me a great fashion photographer?

Sorry Joe, that does NOT make you a fashionphotographer, but a nature photographer and I would strongly recommend to send the picture to National Geographic!

Posted by Dudley Watson: 
Well, yes, people still do shoot racoons, don't they?

In the country maybe where Coon hunting is profitable. In the San Fran Bay Area, you'd have an Activist on your tail. *g*

Posted by Joe K. Perez: 
...does that automatically make me a fashion photographer? If my lighting is superb and my model looks like a pretty Racoon, does it make me a great fashion photographer? Just curious. Sometimes I wonder about the fashionable Racoon look. A lot of kids (girls. my daughters included) laugh at it.

It reminds me of the King who went on parade butt-nekkid, thinking he had on a beautiful garment designed by his Kingdom's great fashion designers. In this case, it's not the King, but the models. It's been going on for a long time in the fashion industry and kids, young adults, and basically EVERYONE laugh at it and say it basically looks very, very stupid. That is, everyone except for everyone in the fashion industry. Why is that? What is up with this Racoon look? Do I need one in my portfolio?

Posted by !Tiger!: 
Racoons are pretty  indeed (as long as they dont have  rabies)

Tig, no worries. In my area, it's not *fashionable* to shoot at Racoons, but it would be awesome to have a closeup of one baring it's fangs while it goes through the neighbor's garbage. On the other hand, you gave me a funny idea. When discusing with a model regarding a fashion shoot...as long as you don't have rabies. LOL!

Posted by Joe K. Perez: 

Posted by !Tiger!: 
Racoons are pretty  indeed (as long as they dont have  rabies)

Tig, no worries. In my area, it's not *fashionable* to shoot at Racoons, but it would be awesome to have a closeup of one baring it's fangs while it goes through the neighbor's garbage. On the other hand, you gave me a funny idea. When discusing with a model regarding a fashion shoot...as long as you don't have rabies. LOL!

Posted by Joe K. Perez: 

Posted by Dudley Watson: 
Well, yes, people still do shoot racoons, don't they?

In the country maybe where Coon hunting is profitable. In the San Fran Bay Area, you'd have an Activist on your tail. *g*

Posted by Mary: 
If youre talking about the dark smokey eye with color all around the eye (or black around the eye)  it only works on edgy models.  It does look silly on most models in my opinion.  Given the right wardrobe, atmosphere, lighting and model I think it can add a lot to a shot.   

I agree with you 100%

Posted by Printmakeup: 
im confused, what do you consider the raccoon look?

Well, hard to describe. Here's some pics of racoons though to get an idea of the makeup style. Lol. Keep in mind, MUA's should not be offended by anything I'm writing.

http://www.michaeldavy.com/Fashion%20Ai … 0copy2.jpg

http://pangea.stanford.edu/~hsiao/racoon%5B1%5D.jpg

http://www.harunyahya.com/kids/pictures … racoon.jpg

Posted by Dudley Watson: 
Well, yes, people still do shoot racoons, don't they?

In some parts, they eat 'em too!

Posted by Joe K. Perez: 

Posted by !Tiger!: 
Racoons are pretty  indeed (as long as they dont have  rabies)

Tig, no worries. In my area, it's not *fashionable* to shoot at Racoons, but it would be awesome to have a closeup of one baring it's fangs while it goes through the neighbor's garbage. On the other hand, you gave me a funny idea. When discusing with a model regarding a fashion shoot...as long as you don't have rabies. LOL!

Thanks! You just gave me an idea for an unusual fashion shoot!

Posted by Hugh  Jorgen: 
I myself hate the raccoon look-Wait what is the raccoon look anyway (:--

Not sure about the look, Hugh ... I think we ate one once when it fell into the barbeque pit. Don't tell Dream about that!

Posted by Joe K. Perez: 
...does that automatically make me a fashion photographer? If my lighting is superb and my model looks like a pretty Racoon, does it make me a great fashion photographer? Just curious. Sometimes I wonder about the fashionable Racoon look. A lot of kids (girls. my daughters included) laugh at it.

It reminds me of the King who went on parade butt-nekkid, thinking he had on a beautiful garment designed by his Kingdom's great fashion designers. In this case, it's not the King, but the models. It's been going on for a long time in the fashion industry and kids, young adults, and basically EVERYONE laugh at it and say it basically looks very, very stupid. That is, everyone except for everyone in the fashion industry. Why is that? What is up with this Racoon look? Do I need one in my portfolio?

LOL Joe, you and I think alike... I think I'd rubber neck if I saw some one walking down the street looking like that... .....and I think a lot of other people would too.. I have laid off the racoon look myself... for the same reasons...

As a matter of fact,.. I have often been critical of the lighting that I see from many of these "high fashion" photographers... it's usually one big god damn octagon bank light splatting the model with a glob of light as she is right up next to a wall, ....oooooh...how hard is that!? and yet, they are praised by the masses of morons who believe that if you add separation lighting to your images, you are "stuck in the 80's"..   

  You see,.... these days,... all you have to do is call it "Art"..and you can get away with anything... IMO, there is a lot of "Art" which I call "Crap!"..

  JP

Posted by Printmakeup: 
im confused, what do you consider the raccoon look?

https://modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=4274897f927d6

  JP

Posted by Mary: 
I have the racoon look as my main shot on my website (it's been my signiture shot for years) 

i think you have more of a catwoman look going on there... more so catwoman than a raccoon, IMO.

Posted by theda: 
I like the raccoon look. I want to be Priss when I grow up.

Yup. I'd buy a Theda pleasure model.

Posted by John Paul: 

Posted by Joe K. Perez: 
...does that automatically make me a fashion photographer? If my lighting is superb and my model looks like a pretty Racoon, does it make me a great fashion photographer? Just curious. Sometimes I wonder about the fashionable Racoon look. A lot of kids (girls. my daughters included) laugh at it.

It reminds me of the King who went on parade butt-nekkid, thinking he had on a beautiful garment designed by his Kingdom's great fashion designers. In this case, it's not the King, but the models. It's been going on for a long time in the fashion industry and kids, young adults, and basically EVERYONE laugh at it and say it basically looks very, very stupid. That is, everyone except for everyone in the fashion industry. Why is that? What is up with this Racoon look? Do I need one in my portfolio?

LOL Joe, you and I think alike... I think I'd rubber neck if I saw some one walking down the street looking like that... .....and I think a lot of other people would too.. I have laid off the racoon look myself... for the same reasons...

As a matter of fact,.. I have often been critical of the lighting that I see from many of these "high fashion" photographers... it's usually one big god damn octagon bank light splatting the model with a glob of light as she is right up next to a wall, ....oooooh...how hard is that!? and yet, they are praised by the masses of morons who believe that if you add separation lighting to your images, you are "stuck in the 80's"..   

  You see,.... these days,... all you have to do is call it "Art"..and you can get away with anything... IMO, there is a lot of "Art" which I call "Crap!"..

  JP

Posted by Mary: 
I have the racoon look as my main shot on my website (it's been my signiture shot for years) I first did this in 1999 on a test, a catalog comapany saw it on a models zed card and asked her who did it, she told them I did and they hired me to do it on their catalog cover in 2001,  before that date I had never seen it. Now I see it all the time.

Posted by Brent Burzycki: 


Great well I need an activist to come over to my house and remove the coon family from my rafters..... they can go up there and challange that 80 pounder....

With claws I might add

Posted by Joe K. Perez: 

Posted by Dudley Watson: 
Well, yes, people still do shoot racoons, don't they?

In the country maybe where Coon hunting is profitable. In the San Fran Bay Area, you'd have an Activist on your tail. *g*

Posted by Reese, VA . MUA: 
Hmm...

"Your Honor, I must plead guilty...  I also have the 'raccoon-look' in my portfolio... but mine is toned down some... Can you reduce my sentance because I was a first time offender? I have no other previous record of such activity and the model coerced me into it."

Yeah... that's my story... 

Posted by Reese, VA . MUA: 
I thought we were supposed to blame everything on the Canadians? 

::::Reese rechecks her fact book::::

Nope you are right, says here on page 14, "...blame on French..."

I blame it on the French Canadians.....But hey thay were the ones that did not tip me after I gave the 15 of them their 100$ bill....And those sundaes were perfect thank you very much....