Photographer

Martin Hazine

Posts: 212

Phoenix, Arizona, US

I've heard them mentioned a lot as an alternative to suicide girls.  But I haven't heard a lot of specific examples why it is better.  I've heard they aren't as restrictive as suicide girls, but I haven't seen their releases and I haven't been able to get a copy of them through their site or by e-mailing them. 

If you think godsgirls or another site is good, I want to hear specific reasons why.  But I don't want second-hand sources.

Jan 19 07 03:05 pm Link

Photographer

GOTHCHIX

Posts: 8

Chicago, Illinois, US

Actually, although yes, I do work for them.  I have to say that GOTHCHIX.COM is light years ahead of both those sites.

Amanda

Jan 19 07 03:07 pm Link

Photographer

Star

Posts: 17966

Los Angeles, California, US

GOTHCHIX wrote:
Actually, although yes, I do work for them.  I have to say that GOTHCHIX.COM is light years ahead of both those sites.

Amanda

The problem is you run that site....

Star

Jan 19 07 03:09 pm Link

Photographer

Aaron S

Posts: 2651

Syracuse, Indiana, US

In short, it isn't.

Jan 19 07 03:10 pm Link

Photographer

aesthetix photo

Posts: 10558

Macon, Georgia, US

Star wrote:

The problem is you run that site....

"Light years ahead" = "I can't pay you" ?

At that point, not even in the same category....

Jan 19 07 03:13 pm Link

Photographer

Martin Hazine

Posts: 212

Phoenix, Arizona, US

GOTHCHIX wrote:
Actually, although yes, I do work for them.  I have to say that GOTHCHIX.COM is light years ahead of both those sites.

Amanda

Step up!  I haven't heard a reason why it is better.  I want specifics, otherwise its spam.

Jan 19 07 03:13 pm Link

Photographer

GOTHCHIX

Posts: 8

Chicago, Illinois, US

FREE membership, 10,000 photos and 300 models is a good reason.  Those who say it isn't, obviosuly haven't checked it out.  Anyways, as I said, yes I have a biased opinion.  But, I have heard this opinion, by alot of other people in the industry as well.

Jan 19 07 03:17 pm Link

Photographer

Sophistocles

Posts: 21320

Seattle, Washington, US

GOTHCHIX wrote:
Actually, although yes, I do work for them.  I have to say that GOTHCHIX.COM is light years ahead of both those sites.

Amanda

You're kidding, right? To see any nude content, you have to sign up for SexKey, which, though you insist it's free, is not.

"All FREE trial subscriptions to PornKing.com are free for the stated period of days, and then automatically billed at the stated monthly rate of $39.95 unless you request cancellation. "

It's a "free 3-day trial" and then billed at $39.95 per month unless you cancel. The net is filled with reports of users who simply cannot cancel.

Scam, plain and simple.

Jan 19 07 03:20 pm Link

Photographer

GOTHCHIX

Posts: 8

Chicago, Illinois, US

Hey Christopher:

If you think that, then your not following the terms and conditions for joining up for Sexkey in the first place.  It states very clearly that you have you have to cancel your trial membership.  If you do that, you will not be charged.  Anyways, there are like 750 free photos without signing up.  What does Suicide Girls offer for FREE except one big headache, and yes, I have joined them to see what's inside.

Amanda

Jan 19 07 03:24 pm Link

Photographer

Sophistocles

Posts: 21320

Seattle, Washington, US

GOTHCHIX wrote:
Hey Christopher:

If you think that, then your not following the terms and conditions for joining up for Sexkey in the first place.  It states very clearly that you have you have to cancel your trial membership.  If you do that, you will not be charged.  Anyways, there are like 750 free photos without signing up.  What does Suicide Girls offer for FREE except one big headache, and yes, I have joined them to see what's inside.

Amanda

No nudes unless you sign up. Nudes are what makes sites like yours go 'round, so let's cut to the chase and agree that you have to sign up.

With that stipulated, I've already told you the problem - canceling within the three-day period is like pulling teeth. In many cases the user cannot cancel in time and is charged at least once. Charging-back that transaction is very difficult and most will give up. Firms like SexKey count on this.

Sorry, you're not dealing with a noob.

"Free" indeed. Not buying it.

Jan 19 07 03:27 pm Link

Photographer

aesthetix photo

Posts: 10558

Macon, Georgia, US

GOTHCHIX wrote:
It states very clearly that you have you have to cancel your trial membership.  If you do that, you will not be charged.

And if you don't bother signing up for Sexkey, you'll never run the risk of being charged either.

Free = come on in anytime, it's free.  Signing up for a 3 day pass and then having to cancel or being ass-raped 40 bucks a month isn't free, it's shite.

Jan 19 07 03:28 pm Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

What was the topic again?

Jan 19 07 03:34 pm Link

Photographer

Sophistocles

Posts: 21320

Seattle, Washington, US

Craig Thomson wrote:
What was the topic again?

Copper River salmon season this year. I hear that the cold weather is going to make the fish especially tasty this year. I'm really looking forward to it!

Jan 19 07 03:36 pm Link

Photographer

GOTHCHIX

Posts: 8

Chicago, Illinois, US

I don't know.  It's interesting.  I was just offering an opinion.  Apparently, at least two of you have personally been ripped off by Sexkey.  I've also had friends sign up and had no problem cancelling.  Perhaps, that's because I know what link to go to cancel.  But that's really not the issue anyway.  The issue is you don't have to sign up and you still get access to about 750 free pictures.  Those who want to sign up but are reluctant.  Hey, drop me an email and I'll send you the link to cancel.  It's certainly news to us that Sexkey is ripping people off.  I wouldn't have used them if I felt that was the case.  The only reason we did it this way is because noone wants to pay for a membership in this day and age.  So I do apologize if anyone out there has felt mislead.

Jan 19 07 03:38 pm Link

Photographer

Martin Hazine

Posts: 212

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Craig Thomson wrote:
What was the topic again?

Godsgirls, reasons they are good or not good.

Jan 19 07 03:39 pm Link

Photographer

215 Studios

Posts: 3453

Center Point, Texas, US

I cannot remember which "Free 3-day Trial" it was I was reading the terms and conditions for, but, like this one, you have to cancel during the 3-day trial...

Well, when you read their cancelation policy, it clearly states that all cancelations must be made no less than seven (7) business days before your billing date.

So, you had at least one (1) $39.99 no matter what!

-Major

Jan 19 07 03:40 pm Link

Photographer

FotoMark

Posts: 2978

Oxnard, California, US

Craig Thomson wrote:
What was the topic again?

Double backfilps on snowmobiles a good or bad idea? From a modeling perspective of course.

Jan 19 07 03:41 pm Link

Model

Ava Roulette

Posts: 320

Reno, Nevada, US

215 Studios wrote:
I cannot remember which "Free 3-day Trial" it was I was reading the terms and conditions for, but, like this one, you have to cancel during the 3-day trial...

Well, when you read their cancelation policy, it clearly states that all cancelations must be made no less than seven (7) business days before your billing date.

So, you had at least one (1) $39.99 no matter what!

-Major

Brilliant! Everyone should handle business in such an honorable manner!

Jan 19 07 03:41 pm Link

Photographer

Sophistocles

Posts: 21320

Seattle, Washington, US

GOTHCHIX wrote:
Hey, drop me an email and I'll send you the link to cancel.

You're missing my point. Everyone that I know that has fallen into this trap has known the link to cancel. Many have even tried getting the firm on the phone, to no avail. Even when you cancel, your card is often charged anyway. The firm then claims that you did not cancel in time, cancels you, and keeps the one month, daring you to charge it back.

Most people don't bother to fight it. At $40 per incident, they make decent money.

Since you get paid every time someone uses SexKey, it's in your best interest to continue this.

If you truly wanted it to be free, you'd just make it free. Period. No SexKey. And don't give me that "we have to check your age" crap, as we both know that's not true. Again, you're not dealing with a noob.

So what do you say? Get rid of SexKey and make your site free?

No?

Didn't think so.

Jan 19 07 03:42 pm Link

Photographer

215 Studios

Posts: 3453

Center Point, Texas, US

MartinH wrote:

Godsgirls, reasons they are good or not good.

I've tried to get a copy of the release from GodsGirls before, too.  I haven't been able to get any responce to them, either.  That makes me kinda skitish...  But who knows!  Maybe their great!  Send in some images on their "So you wanna get nekkid for us" application and see what they send you.

-Major

P.S.
If you get a copy of their release, forward it on to me?  I actually have two (2) sisters that are quite interested in getting on GodsGirls, but they want to see the release, first.

Jan 19 07 03:44 pm Link

Photographer

ReallyRandy

Posts: 460

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

Search for suicide girls or gods girls or blue blood, etc. in the forum search> All that can be said has been said... ad nauseum

Now lets discuss that salmon. Will I need a snowmobile to get to the fishing spot? And of so, would a double back flip be appropo?

Jan 19 07 03:47 pm Link

Photographer

Martin Hazine

Posts: 212

Phoenix, Arizona, US

ReallyRandy wrote:
Search for suicide girls or gods girls or blue blood, etc. in the forum search> All that can be said has been said... ad nauseum

Now lets discuss that salmon. Will I need a snowmobile to get to the fishing spot? And of so, would a double back flip be appropo?

I have read those forums, but they say problems with suicide girls and list other sites.  But they don't list why those other sites are better with specific reasons.  I haven't seen a release from them even though  I have asked them for it. 

If the godsgirls models and photographers here think they are good, I want to see their releases and know how much they pay for sets.

Jan 19 07 03:50 pm Link

Photographer

GOTHCHIX

Posts: 8

Chicago, Illinois, US

Hey Christopher:

Again, I apologize if you feel you were mislead.  I have had several friends cancel and it was no problem, and yes, we do have to know that evryone's at least 18 years of age.  I'm sure you're aware of the 2257 law.  This is serious stuff nowadays.  Anyways, this is a worthless debate at this point.  Like I said, my friends have had no problem cancelling and anyways who wouldn't challenge a $39.95 debt charged to your credit card.  You say people have money nowadays and don't care.  I would never allow anyone to charge my card without immediately protesting.  You'd have to be a moron to let something like that go.  Even if you do have tons of money.

Jan 19 07 03:50 pm Link

Model

Jami Lea

Posts: 5747

Los Angeles, California, US

I have a friend that is on their site, I wont mention her name so it doesn't get them mad at her, but she said that she joined them and that was it. lol  She constantly emails them asking them to get her some work, asks if they have been advertising, etc.  They don't do anything she says.  She has been doing stuff like this for awhile and owns her own band so she is getting pissed off.  She says they aren't motivated or something.

Jan 19 07 03:52 pm Link

Photographer

Newzpix

Posts: 662

Manassas, Georgia, US

I do not see the allure of any of these sites  :-(

Jan 19 07 03:55 pm Link

Photographer

GOTHCHIX

Posts: 8

Chicago, Illinois, US

Jamie:

That's a hilarious accusation.  All models know how to reach us.  Either you can write us here or email me directly at [email protected]

All our models are quite happy and I guarantee you I would never ignore anyone who writes us.

Amanda

Jan 19 07 03:55 pm Link

Photographer

215 Studios

Posts: 3453

Center Point, Texas, US

Jami Lea wrote:
I have a friend that is on their site, I wont mention her name so it doesn't get them mad at her, but she said that she joined them and that was it. lol  She constantly emails them asking them to get her some work, asks if they have been advertising, etc.  They don't do anything she says.  She has been doing stuff like this for awhile and owns her own band so she is getting pissed off.  She says they aren't motivated or something.

Do they have any images of her up?  Has she ever gotten a release to sign?

I ask, because you "must agree to terms and conditions," but when you click on the link, it says, "Terms on way," and that's it.  I'm just interested to see what they are...

-Major

Jan 19 07 03:56 pm Link

Photographer

215 Studios

Posts: 3453

Center Point, Texas, US

GOTHCHIX wrote:
Jamie:

That's a hilarious accusation.  All models know how to reach us.  Either you can write us here or email me directly at [email protected]

All our models are quite happy and I guarantee you I would never ignore anyone who writes us.

Amanda

I believe she was refering to the OP's question, not the high-jacking that you've managed to make of this thread...

-Major

Jan 19 07 03:57 pm Link

Photographer

Sophistocles

Posts: 21320

Seattle, Washington, US

GOTHCHIX wrote:
and yes, we do have to know that evryone's at least 18 years of age.  I'm sure you're aware of the 2257 law.  You'd have to be a moron to let something like that go.  Even if you do have tons of money.

Nice of you to call me a moron. They charge without authorization and after a cancellation, yet the customer is the moron?

Nice business ethic you have.

As for the first issue, would you be so kind as to show me where, in 18 USC 2256 or 2257 you see the requirement to validate age at 18 for online presentation? That section of law deals with recordkeeping, not gatekeeping. I'm sure you're aware of that.

And I repeat my original question - why not just jettison SexKey and make your site free? The answer is because they pay you.

Disingenuous much?

Jan 19 07 03:58 pm Link

Model

Jessie-Lynne

Posts: 1857

Chicago, Illinois, US

Newzpix wrote:
I do not see the allure of any of these sites  :-(

Some broads just like getting naked on the internet.. & some of us like to see it.. I infact enjoy both!
xo

Jan 19 07 04:02 pm Link

Photographer

Vito

Posts: 4582

Brooklyn, New York, US

GOTHCHIX wrote:
I don't know.  It's interesting.  I was just offering an opinion.  Apparently, at least two of you have personally been ripped off by Sexkey.  I've also had friends sign up and had no problem cancelling.  Perhaps, that's because I know what link to go to cancel.  But that's really not the issue anyway.  The issue is you don't have to sign up and you still get access to about 750 free pictures.  Those who want to sign up but are reluctant.  Hey, drop me an email and I'll send you the link to cancel.  It's certainly news to us that Sexkey is ripping people off.  I wouldn't have used them if I felt that was the case.  The only reason we did it this way is because noone wants to pay for a membership in this day and age.  So I do apologize if anyone out there has felt mislead.

They've been ripping off people like this for years.

Jan 19 07 04:02 pm Link

Model

Jessie-Lynne

Posts: 1857

Chicago, Illinois, US

MartinH wrote:
I've heard them mentioned a lot as an alternative to suicide girls.  But I haven't heard a lot of specific examples why it is better.  I've heard they aren't as restrictive as suicide girls, but I haven't seen their releases and I haven't been able to get a copy of them through their site or by e-mailing them. 

If you think godsgirls or another site is good, I want to hear specific reasons why.  But I don't want second-hand sources.

There are more then a handful of godsgirls on this site.. Why don't you drop them an email!  I'm sure they would be willing to answer all your questions..

Jan 19 07 04:03 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Sophie R

Posts: 1235

Paris, Île-de-France, France

GOTHCHIX wrote:
Jamie:

That's a hilarious accusation.  All models know how to reach us.  Either you can write us here or email me directly at [email protected]

All our models are quite happy and I guarantee you I would never ignore anyone who writes us.

Amanda

I had the feeling she was speaking about Godsgirl, which is the topic of this thread...

Jan 19 07 04:03 pm Link

Model

Ava Roulette

Posts: 320

Reno, Nevada, US

215 Studios and Christopher Ambler


^ my new favorites...^

Jan 19 07 04:08 pm Link

Photographer

215 Studios

Posts: 3453

Center Point, Texas, US

Demo wrote:
215 Studios and Christopher Ambler


^ my new favorites...^

*Frolic*

Jan 19 07 04:10 pm Link

Photographer

Studio Spike

Posts: 978

New York, New York, US

Ok i can give you 'first hand' reasons why i think my site 'PunkyBoobster.com' is good.

First of all, none of that ridiculous 'female empowerment' silliness.....the site exists people like to look at boobs.

Second, no 'exclusive' contract!   

Third...since i'm new and hungry you have more chance of a set being accepted ...whereas SG now has oooodles of submissions   smile

Jan 19 07 04:33 pm Link