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Matt

Posts: 241

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Jan 14 07 10:01 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Riannan the Artist

Posts: 99

Punta Gorda, Florida, US

Yeah, since they allow nude photography here, a lot of people take it as far as they can!  Definitely lots of nude work and glam that is not in fact artful. 
I love tasteful nude work, illustrating the body in beautifully lit pictures, but many have not done that.

It's all about what you want to say for yourself and about yourself, I guess. Freedom of expression.

Jan 14 07 10:06 pm Link

Model

_Absentia_

Posts: 9339

Austin, Indiana, US

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Jan 14 07 10:08 pm Link

Model

Matt

Posts: 241

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Riannan the artist wrote:
Freedom of expression.

in its proper forum?

Jan 14 07 10:10 pm Link

Photographer

Ray Cornett

Posts: 9207

Sacramento, California, US

Matt_582 wrote:
Pornography was considered an artform?

por·nog·ra·phy   (pôr-nŏg'rə-fē)  Pronunciation Key     
n. 

   1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.

You can do sexually explicit images without the intent/purpose of sexually arousing the viewer,,,and shoot them very well.

Jan 14 07 10:10 pm Link

Wardrobe Stylist

stylist man

Posts: 34382

New York, New York, US

jeff koons and ciccolena

Jan 14 07 10:11 pm Link

Photographer

Ray Cornett

Posts: 9207

Sacramento, California, US

Maplethorpe

Jan 14 07 10:12 pm Link

Wardrobe Stylist

stylist man

Posts: 34382

New York, New York, US

Matt_582 wrote:

in its proper forum?

The Puritans might consider an open mouth to be pornography.

Are you ready for the stockade?

Jan 14 07 10:13 pm Link

Model

LORA

Posts: 5067

Washington, District of Columbia, US

"overwhelming majority"? I have to disagree there.

And, to each his own, eh?

Jan 14 07 10:13 pm Link

Photographer

Ray Cornett

Posts: 9207

Sacramento, California, US

Isn`t saying all explicit photographs are porn like saying all male models are homosexuals?

Jan 14 07 10:14 pm Link

Photographer

Ray Cornett

Posts: 9207

Sacramento, California, US

Matt_582 wrote:
Convince me that thoughtless setups paired with generic car-show bodied glam-model wannabes arching their asses up towards the camera is in fact, art?





Matt

I have not seen any car show photographers call their import photos artistic, yet anyway

Jan 14 07 10:15 pm Link

Photographer

Bob Helm Photography

Posts: 18922

Cherry Hill, New Jersey, US

Actually if you study art from the ancient Roman, Egypt, India and other cultures much of it would be considered porn. Beauty and porn are both in the eye of the beholder

Jan 14 07 10:17 pm Link

Model

Matt

Posts: 241

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Robert Helm wrote:
Actually if you study art from the ancient Roman, Egypt, India and other cultures much of it would be considered porn. Beauty and porn are both in the eye of the beholder

alright, I guess I overcomplicated what I was thinking,
I just think all the completely shitty photography with naked
girls is distasteful





Matt

Jan 14 07 10:20 pm Link

Photographer

Ray Cornett

Posts: 9207

Sacramento, California, US

Matt_582 wrote:

alright, I guess I overcomplicated what I was thinking,
I just think all the completely shitty photography with naked
girls is distasteful





Matt

Shitty photography is also in the eye of the viewer...

Jan 14 07 10:22 pm Link

Model

Matt

Posts: 241

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Primal Lens wrote:

Shitty photography is also in the eye of the viewer...

So is taste, and it carries weight when there's a majority
who share the same opinion... that's how we have ideas of morality, science,
empirical thought, etc.. etc.. etc.. etc.. etc.. etcc..

Jan 14 07 10:25 pm Link

Photographer

Scribe of Souls

Posts: 564

Bonner Springs, Kansas, US

Matt_582 wrote:

So is taste, and it carries weight when there's a majority
who share the same opinion... that's how we have ideas of morality, science,
empirical thought, etc.. etc.. etc.. etc.. etc.. etcc..

The problem with majority opinion is that the majority of those giving opinions are saying what they have been told, brain washed, and fear, to be the politically/theologically correct answers and not being true to their own true opinions.

Jan 14 07 10:34 pm Link

Model

Matt

Posts: 241

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Scribe of Souls wrote:

The problem with majority opinion is that the majority of those giving opinions are saying what they have been told, brain washed, and fear, to be the politically/theologically correct answers and not being true to their own true opinions.

I wasn't trying to say there wasn't a problem with it,
I was saying that its a truth we live with





Matt

Jan 14 07 10:41 pm Link

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