Ched wrote:
They're not know for their male models, but I'm sure the ones they take on are working.

yeah, I mean I "assume" I'm getting an offer since they bothered
to call me and bring me back in...

I also assume that with all their connections, their male models must
be experiencing some degree of success?






Matt

MurphyMurphy Studios wrote:
Congratulations.

With your height (5'11") I am a tad surprised that they want you to come back.... you must have wowed 'em.

Are they looking to sign you for their fashion or lifestyle group?

I suppose I'll find out,
but I'm pretty sure I only marked "fashion"
in the stats sheet

Matt_582 wrote:
yeah, I mean I "assume" I'm getting an offer since they bothered
to call me and bring me back in...

Matt

It's dangerous to make assumptions like that!!   

just wait and see how it goes, they may just be thinning the numbers and you made the 1st cut.

but if you are in, then congratulations!!!

Jon
www.jonroberts.co.uk

Jon Roberts wrote:

It's dangerous to make assumptions like that!!   

just wait and see how it goes, they may just be thinning the numbers and you made the 1st cut.

but if you are in, then congratulations!!!

Jon
www.jonroberts.co.uk

its not dangerous, lol,
its just the most logical explanation

and I don't think agencies really do a series of, "cuts"
out of open-calls... this isn't a sports team ;p

Matt_582 wrote:

its not dangerous, lol,
its just the most logical explanation

and I don't think agencies really do a series of, "cuts"
out of open-calls... this isn't a sports team ;p

He is just saying not to go spending money you don't have yet. Every agency is different. Some do cuts a few times, others want you to sign the second time you come in!

Matt_582 wrote:
and I don't think agencies really do a series of, "cuts" out of open-calls... this isn't a sports team ;p

Oh, wow, you're new.

Sometimes they cut everyone. That is pretty much how it works. They cut people who are already in (but not making money) as well.

Every model they take on requires an enormous financial and logistical commitment on the part of an agency, and if you're not an earner you're gone.

Matt_582 wrote:

its not dangerous, lol,
its just the most logical explanation

and I don't think agencies really do a series of, "cuts"
out of open-calls... this isn't a sports team ;p

Actually they do.  I am with Elite out of Atlanta. 

Something tells me you have this industry twisted.  Matt, forget about successful male or female models.  Just strive to make money and be creative with your work.  Remember that you are your own business.  If indeed you are a model then you are a work of art (in theory).  In the end your personal style and character is what others (especially clients) will see in you.  I know it sounds like a line out of a Disney movie, but, without charisma you ain't nothin!  Just be your self.  A model that has character can go much further than a person with good looks but no personality.  That’s why they call us “models” and not just “attractive people.”

Also, keep in mind that the fashion industry is a business, its nothing like that reality TV bull shit we are fed on a day to day basis.  *sigh* so young… so dumb.  J/K 

peace my young apprentice

rhadames wrote:
A model that has character can go much further than a person with good looks but no personality.  That’s why they call us “models” and not just “attractive people.”

Wait, what? Explain that one again.

Searcher wrote:

Wait, what? Explain that one again.

A model that has character can go much further than a *model* with good looks but no *character*.  That’s why they call us “models” and not just “attractive people.”

rhadames wrote:

Actually they do.  I am with Elite out of Atlanta. 

Something tells me you have this industry twisted.  Matt, forget about successful male or female models.  Just strive to make money and be creative with your work.  Remember that you are your own business.  If indeed you are a model then you are a work of art (in theory).  In the end your personal style and character is what others (especially clients) will see in you.  I know it sounds like a line out of a Disney movie, but, without charisma you ain't nothin!  Just be your self.  A model that has character can go much further than a person with good looks but no personality.  That’s why they call us “models” and not just “attractive people.”

Also, keep in mind that the fashion industry is a business, its nothing like that reality TV bull shit we are fed on a day to day basis.  *sigh* so young… so dumb.  J/K 

peace my young apprentice

if you're signed with Elite,
can you not give me an accurate rundown
of how its been with them?

- how long you been there?
- quality of management?
- tight-knit feel, or lost-in-the-shuffle feel?
- international work or local?

etc..

you have a great look man,
you need to change your avatar
to something more representative of your talent




Matt

rhadames wrote:

A model that has character can go much further than a *model* with good looks but no *character*.  That’s why they call us “models” and not just “attractive people.”

No, I meant the second part. The first part makes sense but the second part comes out of nowhere, unless you're joking.

Matt_582 wrote:
- quality of management?
- tight-knit feel, or lost-in-the-shuffle feel?
- international work or local?

That's going to depend on the local office. Their Atlanta and Toronto (?) offices are differrent worlds.

Searcher wrote:

No, I meant the second part. The first part makes sense but the second part comes out of nowhere, unless you're joking.

Yeah.. i was being scarcastic.  Over all its important to be a model citizen and know that at all times we (as professional models) represent the companies that we work for.  This idea is what separates the professional models from the ones that do it as a hobby.  Remeber the scandal with Kate Moss? 

regards

GregBrown wrote:
Elite offices are each different from one another (as are other offices of other agencies..) what Rhadames is saying, is...a model that shows up on time, is well rested, speaks well, and ADDS to the shoot with creativity and enthusiasm is going to do MUCH better for clients and book more jobs than a "prettier" model who is late, hung over, and has an attitude. The outgoing model at a go see will often book the job because of their personality and photographs as much on their physical traits...We've all seen models in magazines that we think aren't really all that attractive-different art directors find different ideas interesting from assignment to assignment.
  As for the caliber of men @ Elite....well, it took me about 15 seconds to find the page...http://www.elitemodel.com/tres1.cfm?agency_id=314&division_id=188   (These are the Toronto men)You really should try a little harder and not expect the world to be handed to you.  Greg

right on mr brown

Jon Roberts wrote:

It's dangerous to make assumptions like that!!   

just wait and see how it goes, they may just be thinning the numbers and you made the 1st cut.

but if you are in, then congratulations!!!

Jon
www.jonroberts.co.uk

I agree with this.

GregBrown wrote:
As for the caliber of men @ Elite....well, it took me about 15 seconds to find the page...http://www.elitemodel.com/tres1.cfm?agency_id=314&division_id=188   (These are the Toronto men)You really should try a little harder and not expect the world to be handed to you.  Greg

don't be an asshole, I wasn't asking what their roster website was,
I was asking if anybody knew any big names to come out of that particular
agency, pfft




Matt

Searcher wrote:

That's going to depend on the local office. Their Atlanta and Toronto (?) offices are differrent worlds.

Searcher is right.  Every office is different. 

I have not been with Elite in ATL for too long.  I recently signed with them and since i leave the country next week, i will not be working with them for months.  If i were you i would not get my hopes up.  Look for rejection.  I love it because it builds stamina, character and it humbles you.  If or when you get rejected simply take it and run.  Smile and use that for your next rejection.  Eventually you will either get the booking, or give up.  Now go play Mr. Matt.  We all wish you the best.

By the way, the work on MM is not all my professional wk. Most of it is stuff i have done one the side.  I love this site.  It affords me the oppurtunity to be creative.
thanks for your constructive CRIT MAtt.