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Jigo wrote: So what do you do if a second photographer was hired and they had the same clause in their contract ... and no one thought to tell you two? Jan 13 07 07:32 pm Link Flat Earth Arts wrote: Funny stuff .. and I believe every word of it .. Jan 13 07 07:33 pm Link Glad this came up I did a wedding last saturday and I was the hired photog well protocol for me is that the bride find out from the preacher if flash is allowed(some churches will not allow a flash in the church dont know why) and to find out what my limits are during the wedding as far as moving around,,,,,,,,,,well another photographer was sitting in the crowd she just got a new lense and a flash bounce cover for Christmas and was wanting to try it out. I use my canon 580 with out a bounce so it is more direct during the ceremony wellllllllllllll she had a bounce cover that is omni directional(allows light to blast 360 degrees) well thats exactly what it did it completely destroyed several shots of mine threw out the whole ceremony threw off my focus, only if she snapped during my frame also it threw hard shadows across my subjects simply because she was shooting from the side and I was shooting straight on. To say the least I would prefer nobody was taking pictures during the actual ceremony unless it is a throw away camera that is not throwing out alot of power but she to was a proffesional and came representing the true paparazzis of the photog world,,,,,after the ceremony was over I told her how it was affecting my shots and from there on it was like I was always having to wait on her so I could do what I was paid to do. Next time I will let the bride know in advance to nicely let her guest no that cameras would be allowed during the reception but not during the ceremony simply because she has hired a photographer and was paying alot of money and would not like any interferance from other flashes. Another thing that happens is the guest all know either the bride or the groom and if they are taking a picture chances are whoever they are taking the picture of will be directing there attention towards them since they no them. When it comes to weddings I am a photojournalistic style photographer (I dont like posed shots) so therefore when I am taking pictures I dont want to see people in my images looking another direction posing for aunt Sue........enough rambling hope this helps ,,,Darren Jan 13 07 07:44 pm Link They are called "Uncle Bob"s...the guy with pro gear and does it as a hobby and will have a Canon 30D, the 580 speedlite with bracket, lightsphere and external battey pack shooting at 1/125 and f/11 all day long. [b]ecker has a great post on this very subject on his photographer's blog http://thebschool.typepad.com/b/2006/12 … th_un.html That's the reality of these days of digital photography. Unless you plan on shooting a Hassy tethered to a laptop on a backpack you are not going to have an equipment advantage. The reality is that the camera now are so good that a 3 year old can make a great pic (in fact my son, 3 and half, does shoot good pics - lots of happy accidents...lol). The only advantage that you can cultivate is service and artistic and creative vision/abilites. That's what you sell to your clients. Show them that you respect their guest. I actually set up images for them so that they get good ones. I've already been paid before I shoot one image so what do I care what they shoot?  I'm remebered at the good guy and when they see that my pics will turn out better than theirs they further apprecaite the value of having a pro there for the pics.Jan 13 07 07:56 pm Link Tim Baker wrote: I would think that would void the contract. That would be a conflict of interest and burden of frustration. Chance are you'd be able to sue the client based on that circumstance. Both photogs would lose business this way... bad situation! Jan 13 07 08:04 pm Link Searcher wrote: I don't think it's my responsibility to tell someone how to do their job. That's just not kosher. Jan 13 07 08:05 pm Link Tim Baker wrote: The couple could be sued by both photographers. I had a nightmare bride who pulled that on me. She was trying her best to get out of the contract but ended up paying me and the other guy both. Jan 13 07 08:19 pm Link Searcher wrote: You must of seen me at one of the weddings shooting? ROFL .. naaaaw I'm kidding! Half the time, my flash don't work! LOL some more! BlindMike wrote: You are right! The couple hired that person and they most likely have seen that persons work. The wedding day is NOT the time to tell either the photographer or the couple what they "should" do. Go with the flow, take some candid shots, laugh and be happy! Don't start fist fights! LOL Jan 13 07 08:24 pm Link BlindMike wrote: Oh, great. Now I want Nathan's hotdog with everything on it, and I don't have anyone around with a car to cart me to Coney Island tonight. Arrrg. Jan 13 07 08:30 pm Link My rule is "as long as you don't get in my way, have at it" Shooting a wedding is as much customer service and PR as it is getting the images. I"ll turn off my lights and invite the family up to take snapshots during the formals. There not using my camera's or my strobes so I know my images are going to look better, but they will have there photo. I make sure that my brides and grooms know that it's there wedding and there the ones paying me so we work as a team, so when uncle Larry or aunt Jenn comes up and get's in my way or starts dictating the way the images should be I can politly say that "the bride and groom and I have talked about what they expect" or "I'll give everbody a chance to take there photo's so have a seat and I"ll let you know when to come up" So in answer to your question bring your camera talk to there photographer and be polite.. Jan 13 07 08:51 pm Link Our friends spent 3g on a supposed "incredible" wedding photographer and the guy was crap. Literally amateur. He'd bought the name of the company and the studio and was making bookings off a rep that was not his. IMHO (we're planning our wedding) the more the merrier and the better the chance for good shots. Every friend I have with an SLR is welcome and encouraged to augment the experience. Our friends also provided disposables at each table and sadly many of THOSE pics turned out nicer than the pro ones.  In terms of "etiquette" I think telephoto lenses are the way to go, no elbowing the photographer at that point  and then shooting some candids at the reception, during the vows, etc. THat's just me and what I want though. I sure as hell won't hire the turkey my friends used, and I've made note of photographers with shitty attitudes toward wedding photography who yet will still take someone's cash and shoot them. Jan 14 07 01:44 am Link Tim Baker wrote: Either I or the other photgrapher would leave, and keep the money as I require payment before the wedding day. Jan 14 07 06:11 am Link MB Photography wrote: I feel pretty much the same way. I've had times where I setup for a shot with perfect framing and some guy jumps in front of me with his canon rebel and snaps away. Most people by far stay out of the way. But there is always a gear head shooter at every wedding these days it seems. Jan 14 07 06:14 am Link jon mmmayhem wrote: I'm late here Jan 14 07 06:21 am Link |
