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Vito
Posts: 4582
Brooklyn, New York, US
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Vito
Posts: 4582
Brooklyn, New York, US
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San Francisco Nudes
Posts: 2910
Novato, California, US
I don't have any problem with llamas not wanting to pose nude (isn't it a shame I even have to say that? Should be understood - it's not for everybody) and I like it when they put something about that in their profile. I'd be even happier if you could search on it. But some of the comments like "I don't do NUDES, U PERVERT, don't even ask or I'll SUE YORU ASS" are prehaps not the best way to present oneself.
I understand that dealing with offers from guys who aren't reading the profile gets old, and so you try to make it more explicit. But it's a fundammental fact of marketing that those people will ignore the new warning, too, but at the same time other people reading the profile can get put off by it.
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Meehan
Posts: 2463
Merrimack, New Hampshire, US
N=Nothing
U=Under
D=Dress
E=Except
S=Skin
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Angel
Posts: 114
Buffalo, New York, US
I like to eat bacon in the nude. Anyone want to shoot that?
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aesthetix photo
Posts: 10558
Macon, Georgia, US
Angel Renee wrote:
I like to eat bacon in the nude. Anyone want to shoot that? You're not frying that bacon in the nude are you? Ouch!
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Angel
Posts: 114
Buffalo, New York, US
What can I say, I like the pain. lol
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Jmoore Images
Posts: 304
Northville, Michigan, US
GNDModeling wrote:
First, my studio shoots nudes, so as I look for new llamas I always check what the girl has written in her profile, if a girl has written 'not interested' in nude work I never message her. There aren't all that many girls on MM who are appropriate for my work, when I see one that might be and there's no mention in her profile of her 'modeling limits' I will message her to see if she'd be interested and if she isn't i recommend she put that politely her profile so she won't be approached too often about nudes.
what i'm seeing is a whole lot of hypocrites these days - with 'I DO NOT I REPEAT I DO NOT DO NUDES! I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR MYSELF THAN THAT!' - many variations of same. Then I go back and look at their profile and hey, look at Li'l Miss Goody Two Shoes, arching her pelvis so suggestively in a little pair of panties or bikini, there she is again doing the oh so tasteful hand bra, oh and let's pull that thong as deep into your crevice as your pain threshold can stand. Puh-leeze - you are no more virtuous, no more worthy of respect than a girl who does nudes. What you may claim fairly is that you are more modest, more inhibited, more conservative, more worried about what other people may think or say about you. That's it. maybe they just don't want to do nudes with you???
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Rp-photo
Posts: 42711
Houston, Texas, US
Surreal Eye Studio wrote:
42 Are these numeric replies a new way to bump?
On the subject of nude images, one must consider the risk-to-reward ratio for the typical newbie llama.
Reward - Slight change possible fame and recognition as hot new llama.
Risk - A greater chance that the images will be misused, either by the photographer or more onerously a third-party with motives to discredit or blackmail the llama at some point in their future.
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Vito
Posts: 4582
Brooklyn, New York, US
Angel Renee wrote:
I like to eat bacon in the nude. Anyone want to shoot that? YES! Come down to NYC and I'll shoot that. A few pounds of cooked bacon, lying across your naked torso, between your breasts and toes....[homer]hmmmm....bacon....[/homer]
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Nihilus
Posts: 10888
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Disclaimer for 90% of all "No Nudes!" comments on profiles:
< - your mileage may vary - >
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Justin
Posts: 22389
Fort Collins, Colorado, US
GNDModeling wrote:
do you have reading comprehension problems? nothing you wrote here has a thing to do with the point i was making. Hasn't been diagnosed. Sometimes a short attention span.
I was addressing the "hysteria" and "goody two-shoes" portion of your posting. The stuff I wrote was a preamble to this:
Justin wrote:
Some of the above are wary of those who would try to push them. That can make them more emphatic. What you construe as hysteria could be mere emphasis for others. That was my comprehension of it.
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FYH Photo
Posts: 462
Santa Clara, California, US
Image K wrote:
![https://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6396/jeeziz3.jpg]() You know, the best way to kill these idiotic threads is to have NO ONE respond to them....Ah DAMN! I just responded! Silly me!
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Benjamen McGuire
Posts: 3991
Portland, Oregon, US
It has been my experience that most non-professional llamas have not been exposed to much, if any, tasteful nudity. When they exclaim 'dont evan ask me to do nudety cuz i gots moe respec fo mysalf then dat!' ..... it's out of ignorance. To them nudity generally means softcore porn. One of my favorite llamas is fond of artistic nudity but for personal reasons does not pose nude. Her port says 'I'm not currently interested in nudes'.
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Rp-photo
Posts: 42711
Houston, Texas, US
Cspine wrote:
To them nudity generally means softcore porn. This is true for many of us before we became "made" in this business. I once had the same opinions of nudity, but was quickly enlightened when I began frequenting some local photo forums and got to personally know some nude figure llamas.
It's too bad everyone can't have this experience, as we'd be a more enlightened society from it.
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Kemmie T x10
Posts: 7489
Atlanta, Georgia, US
So are u convinced that these llamas who "say" one thing in their port, then do something else, are just hypocrites? Or do u think they just don't want u to shoot them at all? Now grant it we llamas can be kinda backwards at times......
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ImageConcepts
Posts: 447
San Francisco, California, US
Carmen the MILF wrote:
OK.....don't TELL ANYONE.....I'll do nudes!
LMAO...
Carmen Duh! You pictures show it! You should hide the nude pictures and to the "Psst..." statement on your bio. So only the ones who are literate will get to shoot you nude!
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Chelsea Lauren
Posts: 1461
Gresham, Oregon, US
I think it is rather rude that when you have in your profile you do not do nudes that photogs will contact you asking to do nudes. I am glad that the OP actually reads profiles and if it says no, he realizes no means no.
I wish they would read my profile. It makes me uncomfortable to be put on the spot and have to say no when all of it could have been easily avoided in the first place.
I agree with your thread though. I have seen llamas that say "no nudity EVAR!" and then they have quite a few nude photos in their portfolios. Mixed messages, indeed.
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Benjamen McGuire
Posts: 3991
Portland, Oregon, US
Chelsea Lauren wrote:
I wish they would read my profile. It makes me uncomfortable to be put on the spot and have to say no when all of it could have been easily avoided in the first place. The llama that posed for this 'doesn't do nudes'. If a well respected professional asked you if you'd be interested in posing for this would you feel uncomfortable?
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e385/ … C09442.jpg
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Jordanrr
Posts: 505
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Please keep it a secret cause I tell everyone I don't shoot nudes but..... I have naked images in my port. I will have new naked images in my port soon.... But PLEASE keep it on the down low... ha ha ha
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aesthetix photo
Posts: 10558
Macon, Georgia, US
rp_photo wrote:
Are these numeric replies a new way to bump? No, just a way to put better content into a thread.
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AC Fashion Fusion
Posts: 134
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Carmen the MILF wrote:
OK.....don't TELL ANYONE.....I'll do nudes!
LMAO...
Carmen You have a good sense of humour.
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AC Fashion Fusion
Posts: 134
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Jordanrr wrote:
Please keep it a secret cause I tell everyone I don't shoot nudes but..... I have naked images in my port. I will have new naked images in my port soon.... But PLEASE keep it on the down low... ha ha ha I enjoyed reading your profile. Clear and respectful.
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Tikeya
Posts: 8075
Edgewood, Maryland, US
GNDModeling wrote:
what i'm seeing is a whole lot of hypocrites these days - with 'I DO NOT I REPEAT I DO NOT DO NUDES! I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR MYSELF THAN THAT!' - many variations of same. Then I go back and look at their profile and hey, look at Li'l Miss Goody Two Shoes, arching her pelvis so suggestively in a little pair of panties or bikini, there she is again doing the oh so tasteful hand bra Some people make the mistake of believing that doing nudes means you "have no respect for yourself," which is absolute bullshit and an insult to those of us who do/have done nudes. Some models are comfortable with doing the "hand bra" shots, etc. but not comfortable with straight-up bare-all full nudity, and that's okay...limitations should be respected. There are plenty of beautiful and talented models on this site. I'm sure that your ideal model(s) is/are on here somewhere.
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jade83
Posts: 2253
Columbia, Missouri, US
Meehan likes anagrams, methinks...KathyJean-you go, girl! Hmm, if I worked at a club, I'd wear a cute saloon girl outfit selling shots around the bar, or join a high-end burlesque and just dance in something pretty. 
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Giacomo Cirrincioni
Posts: 22234
Stamford, Connecticut, US
Angel Renee wrote:
I like to eat bacon in the nude. Anyone want to shoot that? Whenever you're ready....
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Sienna Hambleton
Posts: 10352
Toledo, Ohio, US
GNDModeling wrote:
stfu gimp - where the hell do you get that from? do you have a reading comprehension problem too? And we hope you enjoy your time away from MM. Buh bye.
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Merlinpix
Posts: 7118
Farmingdale, New York, US
I only shoot erotic glamour, say's so in my profile. I shoot expremely little TFP/cd/dvd.
If your comming to me, and I'm paying you your getting naked.
Implied is fine you'll get paid in monopoly money, that's impiled cash.
The models that go on and on about no nudity, they have too much self respect,blah,blah, have not read Shakespear
Paul
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Rick Davis Photography
Posts: 3733
San Antonio, Texas, US
GNDModeling wrote:
First, my studio shoots nudes, so as I look for new models I always check what the girl has written in her profile, if a girl has written 'not interested' in nude work I never message her. There aren't all that many girls on MM who are appropriate for my work, when I see one that might be and there's no mention in her profile of her 'modeling limits' I will message her to see if she'd be interested and if she isn't i recommend she put that politely her profile so she won't be approached too often about nudes.
what i'm seeing is a whole lot of hypocrites these days - with 'I DO NOT I REPEAT I DO NOT DO NUDES! I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR MYSELF THAN THAT!' - many variations of same. Then I go back and look at their profile and hey, look at Li'l Miss Goody Two Shoes, arching her pelvis so suggestively in a little pair of panties or bikini, there she is again doing the oh so tasteful hand bra, oh and let's pull that thong as deep into your crevice as your pain threshold can stand. Puh-leeze - you are no more virtuous, no more worthy of respect than a girl who does nudes. What you may claim fairly is that you are more modest, more inhibited, more conservative, more worried about what other people may think or say about you. That's it. Some girls like to do nudes and some don't. If full nudity is what you want to shoot, respect those who choose not to and move on to those who do. I don't see why it's an issue even worthy of posting.
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ElisAbEtH
Posts: 2142
Charleston, West Virginia, US
I don't shoot nudes just cause i don't think it leaves anything to the imagination. I have no problem with other people who shoot/do nude. In fact I'm shooting with a model who does nudes and shes awesome. Plus I really hate the way I look nude... but not all of us who don't do nudes are bad 
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AprilinCA
Posts: 235
Murrieta, California, US
GNDModeling wrote:
First, my studio shoots nudes, so as I look for new models I always check what the girl has written in her profile, if a girl has written 'not interested' in nude work I never message her. There aren't all that many girls on MM who are appropriate for my work, when I see one that might be and there's no mention in her profile of her 'modeling limits' I will message her to see if she'd be interested and if she isn't i recommend she put that politely her profile so she won't be approached too often about nudes.
what i'm seeing is a whole lot of hypocrites these days - with 'I DO NOT I REPEAT I DO NOT DO NUDES! I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR MYSELF THAN THAT!' - many variations of same. Then I go back and look at their profile and hey, look at Li'l Miss Goody Two Shoes, arching her pelvis so suggestively in a little pair of panties or bikini, there she is again doing the oh so tasteful hand bra, oh and let's pull that thong as deep into your crevice as your pain threshold can stand. Puh-leeze - you are no more virtuous, no more worthy of respect than a girl who does nudes. What you may claim fairly is that you are more modest, more inhibited, more conservative, more worried about what other people may think or say about you. That's it. KUDOS
You mean they just do porn with clothes on. It is funny and just as bad as the I dont do lingerie shots but I will do bikini.... OK How stupid is that? Lingirie can often times cover even more than a bikini would.
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Ms Elle
Posts: 17
Sacramento, California, US
I personally don't do nudes because I have a three year old daughter and it is hard enough to get her to keep her clothes on. Besides I don't want her to ever be embarassed by her mother. But that is me personally. I would also like to state that I love some of the nudes that are artisticly done. It think people should do what they feel comfortable with.
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Ms Elle
Posts: 17
Sacramento, California, US
Merlinpix wrote:
I only shoot erotic glamour, say's so in my profile. I shoot expremely little TFP/cd/dvd.
If your comming to me, and I'm paying you your getting naked.
Implied is fine you'll get paid in monopoly money, that's impiled cash.
The models that go on and on about no nudity, they have too much self respect,blah,blah, have not read Shakespear
Paul I read shakespeare quite frequently and I also perform in shakespeare seasons. Have since I was 16.
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Krisha
Posts: 496
New York, New York, US
GNDModeling wrote:
First, my studio shoots nudes, so as I look for new models I always check what the girl has written in her profile, if a girl has written 'not interested' in nude work I never message her. There aren't all that many girls on MM who are appropriate for my work, when I see one that might be and there's no mention in her profile of her 'modeling limits' I will message her to see if she'd be interested and if she isn't i recommend she put that politely her profile so she won't be approached too often about nudes.
what i'm seeing is a whole lot of hypocrites these days - with 'I DO NOT I REPEAT I DO NOT DO NUDES! I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR MYSELF THAN THAT!' - many variations of same. Then I go back and look at their profile and hey, look at Li'l Miss Goody Two Shoes, arching her pelvis so suggestively in a little pair of panties or bikini, there she is again doing the oh so tasteful hand bra, oh and let's pull that thong as deep into your crevice as your pain threshold can stand. Puh-leeze - you are no more virtuous, no more worthy of respect than a girl who does nudes. What you may claim fairly is that you are more modest, more inhibited, more conservative, more worried about what other people may think or say about you. That's it. I agree with how rude those girls are. Itâs not disrespectful to yourself if you model nude! Itâs someoneâs personal choice and people need to be less judgmental. I had a now ex-friend who said, âUm, I canât be friends with you anymore because you have photos like that (lingerie) online.â
I said, âIâm a model.â
She said, âI make fun of girls like you so Iâd be a hypocrite if i stayed friends with you.â
And Iâm like, âDidnât you catch a STD a few weeks ago from a guy i told you probably had one...â
(Sadly a true story, and I know it iss true because I was the one who drove her to the doctors. Wow.)
For Some, Online Persona Undermines a Résumé
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/us/11 … 8QCLsM40Cw
I KNOW the above article refers more to photos of people getting drunk or writing obscene or hateful statements. they probably didn't acknowledge nude modeling since a majority of people aren't models.
In a sense, this is why some girls don't want to model nude. it's unfair but the rest of the world that isn't part of the photography, modeling, and in general the art world look down upon it. some people who don't care model nude. people who care don't model nude. It's all about comfort level.
I respect a girl who is comfortable enough to bare all, because Iâm not. If I was more comfortable, and taller, I wouldd be banging on Playboyâs door everyday!!! I can handle my family seeing my pin-up/lingerie work but I could never handle them looking at nude work.
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DMCFOTOS
Posts: 57
Timmonsville, South Carolina, US
I can see why a lot of Models put Don't on their profile. If they didn't they would get swamped with messages wanting them to do some. Sounds to me you have a chip on your shoulder and more or less only in it for the nude shots. It's the Models right to put whatever she wants on her profile just as it is yours. It's also her right to say she don't do nudes even if she really does. I'm sure in her own mind she is doing it to try and keep the perverts away. She also has the right to choose who, what, where and when she does them and she she does them with. So stop worrying about the ones who dont and focus on those who do. And there is a major difference between a hand bra and no bra at all.
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LauraMason
Posts: 124
Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Side note:
I think that regardless of whether a person is morally opposed to doing nudes or not, it is clear that there is considerable opposition to nudes in the general population. Consequently, if a model ever wants to do anything other then model, potential employers might not want to hire the former nude model. It is my opinion that doing nudes could have a long-term, negative financial impact. For whatever reason, I don't think that there is so much opposition from the general population to suggestive poses where the model is fully clothed.
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Krisha
Posts: 496
New York, New York, US
LauraMason wrote:
Side note:
I think that regardless of whether a person is morally opposed to doing nudes or not, it is clear that there is considerable opposition to nudes in the general population. Consequently, if a model ever wants to do anything other then model, potential employers might not want to hire the former nude model. It is my opinion that doing nudes could have a long-term, negative financial impact. For whatever reason, I don't think that there is so much opposition from the general population to suggestive poses where the model is fully clothed. Yep, like I said 3 posts back...
For Some, Online Persona Undermines a Résumé
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/us/11 … 8QCLsM40Cw
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GNDModeling
Posts: 31
wow there are some real morons here - and most of them behind the camera not in front of it.
read the friggin' original post again, stay on point or STFU. i could care less whether a girl poses nude for me, does porn, does Maxim style or anything in between - my issue is with the puritanical hypocrisy that makes a girl say things 'I don't do nudes, I have more self respect than that' - that statement more than implies that any girl who does do nudes, artistic/erotic/adult, does NOT have self respect and those who shoot her are exploiting that lack of self respect.
i have NO problem finding nude models, and as somebody who has shot more nudes than anybody here in this thread I have talked to many many more girls who decide not to - and I accept all their reasons not to - except when they pull that puritanical 'i'm better than that' crap. You're better than nobody, you have no more self respect than anybody.
And models - believe me when I say this - when dealing with photographers, you are going to come across many whom we call 'Captain Save A Ho' types, they will approach you in a paternal or avuncular way - you are far less safe with this type than any horny GWC, the GWC you can see coming, these ones are much more insidious.
Again, I could care less if any girl ever poses nude or not - when a girl decides not to I congratulate her and tell her that she's made a good decision - for herself.
alright clownz - i'm outta here.
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