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Searcher
Posts: 775
New York, New York, US
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4C 41 42
Posts: 11093
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Let's see.... $10,000 for a whole weekend, so I'm assuming that's 48 hours. That's only about $200 per hour! Hope she's not doing more than "implied" at that rate. 
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Aaron S
Posts: 2651
Syracuse, Indiana, US
I love the last line...
Posing for porn? Okay. Being in porn films? Touching? Oh no.....stupid people.
If an actress gets paid to do stuff with a guy on a porn shoot, for a video...then does that also count as prostitution? Since you're still paying for sex.
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dgold
Posts: 10302
Pawtucket, Rhode Island, US
...eeewwwww!
Nish fer mir.
...for any price.
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FYH Photo
Posts: 462
Santa Clara, California, US
Aaron S wrote:
I love the last line...
Posing for porn? Okay. Being in porn films? Touching? Oh no.....stupid people.
If an actress gets paid to do stuff with a guy on a porn shoot, for a video...then does that also count as prostitution? Since you're still paying for sex. Actually the adult industry has a legal reasoning for that. You are NOT paying for the sex, it's between two consenting adults. You are paying for the RIGHT to photograph / video the act, thus it's about copyright and releases more than sex. Also I'm sure that male and female porn stars, though having sex, don't consider themselves PAYING for sex with their scene partner. They are in fact, paid to pose for video/still images while having sex. It gets through the legal loopholes and personally, I don't think any of the 'stars' would get paid if it were not captured on some sort of media.
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Aaron S
Posts: 2651
Syracuse, Indiana, US
F.Y. Hamada wrote:
Actually the adult industry has a legal reasoning for that. You are NOT paying for the sex, it's between two consenting adults. You are paying for the RIGHT to photograph / video the act, thus it's about copyright and releases more than sex. Also I'm sure that male and female porn stars, though having sex, don't consider themselves PAYING for sex with their scene partner. They are in fact, paid to pose for video/still images while having sex. It gets through the legal loopholes and personally, I don't think any of the 'stars' would get paid if it were not captured on some sort of media. I think it's a very poor loophole. Because it's about them considering it. I am going to go and videotape all my encounters with prostitutes, and offer those for sale.
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Halcyon 7174 NYC
Posts: 20109
New York, New York, US
The producer of the video doesn't pay for sex. Paying for sex is prostitution. Videotaping people you've paid to have sex with eachother (but not yourself) is just pornography.
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DELETE ACCOUNT
Posts: 5517
Eškašem, Badakhshan, Afghanistan
Everything's better when it sits on a Ritz! Edit to add:  Jesus, man - some of her website photos appear to be a little outdated. She certainly appears to be a typical 42-year-old in her more current ones. (shudder) fleshbot.com/sex/models/meet-melissa-wolf-226005.php
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Chris Macan
Posts: 13020
HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US
Now that's full service modeling,
A real GWC's dream weekend.
Too bad they won't do TFP!
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M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12117
Tampa, Florida, US
I can just picture those stuffy country club wives watching all the "scantily clad" women in their binoculars and prodding their overly bourboned husbands, "honey, look at this...this is an outrage!"
"Prostitution in our nose-raised-in-the-air neighborhood? Preposterous!"
Kinda reminds me of Gladys on Bewitched lol.
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Photography by Ed Selby
Posts: 418
BALL GROUND, Georgia, US
Gotta say, some of the MM and other place wannabes need to read her modeling rates. http://www.melissawolf.com/Schedule.html " · Photo Shoots: $300 for the first hour, $200 for ever hour after, or $1000 for a full day shoot, (9am-5pm) I include the location at my house in Atlanta" Now, for a published Penthouse model, with tons of experience posing, creating shoots, doing her own make-up, AS WELL AS use of her home (a gorgeous home in a tony neighborhood, btw), that rate seems reasonable. MUCH more reasonable than the $150/hour with a 4 hour minimum some wannabes quote here.
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studio kgm inc
Posts: 727
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Michael Pandolfo wrote:
I can just picture those stuffy country club wives watching all the "scantily clad" women in their binoculars and prodding their overly bourboned husbands, "honey, look at this...this is an outrage!"
"Prostitution in our nose-raised-in-the-air neighborhood? Preposterous!"
Kinda reminds me of Gladys on Bewitched lol. "I think those people might actually be having sex in the privacy of their own home! How dare they?"
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FYH Photo
Posts: 462
Santa Clara, California, US
Aaron S wrote:
I think it's a very poor loophole. Because it's about them considering it. I am going to go and videotape all my encounters with prostitutes, and offer those for sale. Doesn't matter what you think. In California it keeps people who shoot porn from being arrested. And that ultimately is what the loophole is used for.
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David Bunch
Posts: 109
Foley, Alabama, US
OMG....I exchanged emails with Mrs. Taylor aka Melissa Wolf last year about a possible shoot (I even have emails with both names on them). Her rates were about right given the access to her mansion as a location and her resume, but she was VERY specific that any hardcore B/G material would only be done with her husband, or G/G with models she knew and had been fully tested. At no point was there any mention of escort services, and no offer of POV-type photos or video.
What's the possibility that this 10k "dream weekend" was actually having the ability to be a "fly on the wall" and watch, photograph or videotape these folks having sex live, and as close up as you want? And who's to say if any mutual contact was simply the passion of the moment?
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Rich Davis
Posts: 3136
Gulf Breeze, Florida, US
I listened to Hannity interview a Porn starlet on the radio. She claimed she got $10,000 for a night. She only did it in Nevada, where it was legal.
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SWEETFACELA
Posts: 3479
Los Angeles, California, US
Aaron S wrote:
I love the last line...
Posing for porn? Okay. Being in porn films? Touching? Oh no.....stupid people.
If an actress gets paid to do stuff with a guy on a porn shoot, for a video...then does that also count as prostitution? Since you're still paying for sex. LOL! I agree with you Aaron, but there will always somehow a "loophole" for porn LOL
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Elle Chanel
Posts: 560
Raleigh, North Carolina, US
that's where the Bunny Ranch is, along with other 'brothel-type' selections.
then again, i got my info. from HBO: Real Sex......go figure
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DELETE ACCOUNT
Posts: 5517
Eškašem, Badakhshan, Afghanistan
David, I wonder what was or will be on this page.
melissawolf.com/Photographers.html
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45475
San Juan Bautista, California, US
David Bunch wrote:
OMG....I exchanged emails with Mrs. Taylor aka Melissa Wolf last year about a possible shoot (I even have emails with both names on them). Her rates were about right given the access to her mansion as a location and her resume, but she was VERY specific that any hardcore B/G material would only be done with her husband, or G/G with models she knew and had been fully tested. At no point was there any mention of escort services, and no offer of POV-type photos or video.
What's the possibility that this 10k "dream weekend" was actually having the ability to be a "fly on the wall" and watch, photograph or videotape these folks having sex live, and as close up as you want? And who's to say if any mutual contact was simply the passion of the moment? I think this is a case of an over zealous District Attorney with a few self righteous neighbors! Very unfortunate for her. I hope she is able to get a great attorney and beat this.
I'm worried now about what my nieghbors might dream up when I start shooting models and cars on my property? I live in a rather nice area with 60 acres. There are some houses built above us that were not there before when I had some magazine shoots for Autobuff. Hmmm 
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Michael Kirst
Posts: 3231
Los Angeles, California, US
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Halcyon 7174 NYC
Posts: 20109
New York, New York, US
Michael Pandolfo wrote:
I can just picture those stuffy country club wives watching all the "scantily clad" women in their binoculars and prodding their overly bourboned husbands, "honey, look at this...this is an outrage!"
"Prostitution in our nose-raised-in-the-air neighborhood? Preposterous!"
Kinda reminds me of Gladys on Bewitched lol. It's Georgia. Down there they just say "we don't know them."
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SLE Photography
Posts: 68937
Orlando, Florida, US
Ed Selby wrote:
Gotta say, some of the MM and other place wannabes need to read her modeling rates.
http://www.melissawolf.com/Schedule.html
" · Photo Shoots: $300 for the first hour, $200 for ever hour after, or $1000 for a full day shoot, (9am-5pm) I include the location at my house in Atlanta"
Now, for a published Penthouse model, with tons of experience posing, creating shoots, doing her own make-up, AS WELL AS use of her home (a gorgeous home in a tony neighborhood, btw), that rate seems reasonable. MUCH more reasonable than the $150/hour with a 4 hour minimum some wannabes quote here. Wow! Excellent point.
Poor Melissa. I met her once a few years back & she was a nice lady.
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David Bunch
Posts: 109
Foley, Alabama, US
KathyJean wrote:
David, I wonder what was or will be on this page.
melissawolf.com/Photographers.html When I looked last year, it was simply a form to fill out. I didn't use it, just emailed her directly.
I wonder where the DA got all these attorneys, Drs. and businessmen from? When I contacted her, I had to provide a website showing a sufficient quality of work "in order to weed out the guys who just wanna get laid...I don't do escort".
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DHayes Photography
Posts: 4962
Richmond, Virginia, US
David Bunch wrote:
What's the possibility that this 10k "dream weekend" was actually having the ability to be a "fly on the wall" and watch, photograph or videotape these folks having sex live, and as close up as you want? And who's to say if any mutual contact was simply the passion of the moment? There are a couple of escort agencies that claim to be able to get most any men's magazine model (including Playboy and Penthouse), stripper or porn actress for the right price -- starting at $10,000 for a weekend with even higher starting rates for "big name" centerfolds and porn stars. You get more than just the right to hang out with girls. Supposedly, several of Hugh Hefner's "girlfriends" as well as the magazine's centerfolds have worked for these agencies.
Doug
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AprilinCA
Posts: 235
Murrieta, California, US
Aaron S wrote:
I love the last line...
Posing for porn? Okay. Being in porn films? Touching? Oh no.....stupid people.
If an actress gets paid to do stuff with a guy on a porn shoot, for a video...then does that also count as prostitution? Since you're still paying for sex. The supreme court I think it was decided that while "Porn" was in a sense prostitution, it didn't fall under the definition of prostitution because a work of art is being created. And this is regardless of who is paying for it.
The exchange of money at that point is not the issue when photos or video is being shot. There are a lot of producers who are also performers who pay girls to shoot with them. Like Sean Michaels, Max Hardcore...etc.
Kind of cracks me up that the cops have nothing better to do. I guess there are no child molestors running around, no murderers.... I mean THESE are the things that actually cause me concern. Not people paying for sex.
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J C ModeFotografie
Posts: 14718
Los Angeles, California, US
AprilinCA wrote:
The supreme court I think it was decided that while "Porn" was in a sense prostitution, it didn't fall under the definition of prostitution because a work of art is being created. And this is regardless of who is paying for it.
The exchange of money at that point is not the issue when photos or video is being shot. There are a lot of producers who are also performers who pay girls to shoot with them. Like Sean Michaels, Max Hardcore...etc.
Kind of cracks me up that the cops have nothing better to do. I guess there are no child molestors running around, no murderers.... I mean THESE are the things that actually cause me concern. Not people paying for sex. Actually, I think the word was "performance", not "art". It takes more than just coitus and cumshots to create art - ask Andrew Blake.
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bobby sargent
Posts: 4159
Deming, New Mexico, US
Aaron S wrote:
I love the last line...
Posing for porn? Okay. Being in porn films? Touching? Oh no.....stupid people.
If an actress gets paid to do stuff with a guy on a porn shoot, for a video...then does that also count as prostitution? Since you're still paying for sex. Some would say NO. You are being paid to MAKE A MOVIE that has a requirement to have sex in the movie. So you are not paid to have sex but paid to make a movie.
See SIMPLE isn't it??? bs
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Vivus Hussein Denuo
Posts: 64211
New York, New York, US
"Scantily clad women were seen posing for photos in the driveway. Cars and trucks came and went at all hours. And there were loud parties."
Loud panties??? That's an outrage!!! Have these women no shame??? If they can't even be bothered to wear decent underclothing... Oh. Wait. Loud parties.
Never mind.
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Vivus Hussein Denuo
Posts: 64211
New York, New York, US
AprilinCA wrote:
The supreme court I think it was decided that while "Porn" was in a sense prostitution, it didn't fall under the definition of prostitution because a work of art is being created. And this is regardless of who is paying for it. The moral of that is: Keep the camera rolling and you'll be OK. 
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UnoMundo
Posts: 47532
Olympia, Washington, US
Glad I don't live in one of those SNOOTY dipshit places.
In Nevada you get a license and charge $$$$ and pay taxes.
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The Dave
Posts: 8848
Ann Arbor, Michigan, US
UnoMundo Photography wrote:
Glad I don't live in one of those SNOOTY dipshit places.
In Nevada you get a license and charge $$$$ and pay taxes. So that's how you make all your money. Was wondering about that....
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IllusionDigital
Posts: 578
San Francisco, California, US
Vivus Denuo wrote:
The moral of that is: Keep the camera rolling and you'll be OK. All they have to do is have their customers, I mean 'extras' for the films be able to quote lines from the script of the movie being shot to make it all the more authentic. and who doesn't like a little role play anyway...
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timothy dolph creative
Posts: 409
Encinitas, California, US
Ed Selby wrote:
Gotta say, some of the MM and other place wannabes need to read her modeling rates.
http://www.melissawolf.com/Schedule.html
" · Photo Shoots: $300 for the first hour, $200 for ever hour after, or $1000 for a full day shoot, (9am-5pm) I include the location at my house in Atlanta"
Now, for a published Penthouse model, with tons of experience posing, creating shoots, doing her own make-up, AS WELL AS use of her home (a gorgeous home in a tony neighborhood, btw), that rate seems reasonable. MUCH more reasonable than the $150/hour with a 4 hour minimum some wannabes quote here. Ya know ed... I have always stayed away from her. (our paths crossed a few times...especially around Halloween and Dragon*Con) Something about her didn't seem right. Besides, she has a little too much milage for my model taste...my photoshop at the time was not all that great.
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DANACOLE
Posts: 10183
Oslo, Oslo, Norway
David Bunch wrote:
I wonder where the DA got all these attorneys, Drs. and businessmen from? When I contacted her, I had to provide a website showing a sufficient quality of work "in order to weed out the guys who just wanna get laid...I don't do llama herder". iF YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNT WITH EROTICREVEIWS.COM TYPE IN HER NAME ANS YOU WILL SEE WHERE THEY GET ALL OF HER "CLIENTELE" BASE FROM.
Type in anyones name who is an llama herder and has a good clientele base there and you can rate them and tell about your experiences with them. If you are not a paying member you can still read some things but not all the juicy details.
Some get pretty darn graphic......
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Jesus, man - some of her website photos appear to be a little outdated. She certainly appears to be a typical 42-year-old in her more current ones. (shudder) 
