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What a low attitude ....
I got a letter from a photographer (not on MM a.f.a.i.k.) and just couldn't believe my eyes: I took a look at your profile, and can see that you could use a little bit more pro shots. No offence, but the shots you have up are just not so great. Well... I have something too... Jan 08 07 10:39 pm Link Eep we now have a mad russian woman on the loose... *ducks* That was a nice letter.... They get a lot meaner and more insulting, trust me... Just send them this lovely jpg..  *hugs TroisC.* Jan 08 07 10:44 pm Link Don't you just love the ones who have to brag about all the work they've supposedly done in order to interest you in shooting with them?  Jan 08 07 10:45 pm Link Best thing to do is just move on. Jan 08 07 10:45 pm Link Rena wrote: This is what Iâd do. Jan 09 07 12:35 am Link In some circles that is the oldest and rudest practice in the not so professional industry...photographers who try to make models think they have bad photos so they will pay the sender of the email for more photos..... Jan 09 07 12:45 am Link sad! what a way to make money, puttings others down, not smart!! Jan 09 07 12:52 am Link avoid anyone who abbreviates the word professional to describe themselves or their work. imo Jan 09 07 02:15 am Link I think your port is amazng. I only wish I had legs like that. Every single picture you have up does wonderful justice for all your best assets aka EVERYTHING!!! rock on! I would just tell him that you are elite and he would be lucky if you said yes to a tfp LOL! Jan 09 07 02:57 am Link that guy wrote: here's a friar Jan 09 07 03:04 am Link It's the other side of the coin, I suppose, of the model who writes me to tell me how wonderful my work is, and she has great rates to offer me. Sorry. FWIW, if you were in Colorado, I'd be contacting you, and nothing about offering you my rates, either. Jan 09 07 03:06 am Link Jami Lea wrote: Thank you Jami. Jan 09 07 03:38 am Link Isn't that a lyric to some song? RB Jan 09 07 03:40 am Link Justin wrote: Now imagine that she adds "btw all the other models in your port do not look as good as I do". Wouldn't it be totally disgusting ? Jan 09 07 03:41 am Link TroisCouleurs wrote: It seems like a good sales pitch, to me... Not rude Jan 09 07 03:43 am Link Kalene wrote: It's not rude, no. It's just cheap sales trick, because he is lowering others. Jan 09 07 03:44 am Link Yeah sounds like someone who will do anything to make some money... what does a.f.a.i.k. mean?  Jan 09 07 04:27 am Link TroisCouleurs wrote: sounds like another cheesey crumb trying to make a buck......I like your port and see it maturing in a wonderful direction Jan 09 07 04:28 am Link most people that have adds like this have nothing to offer now if I was to tell you that I could do somthing with your port that would be differant...why? becouse I am differant! Jan 09 07 04:30 am Link TroisCouleurs wrote: My roommate and I were gawking at you. 39?~?~ please, you can't be over 27 Jan 09 07 04:48 am Link lotusphoto wrote: I just flew in from Denver (and boy my arms are tired....) and I heard they have many clubs there. Jan 09 07 04:52 am Link Grace You wrote: As Far As I Know Jan 09 07 04:53 am Link well... i agree with him at one point...about your pics but unlike him i'd not charge you  Jan 09 07 04:55 am Link The "...more pro shots..." and "...don't do you justice..." are exactly what some "photographer" wrote, awhile ago, to one of the models who forwarded it to me so we can have a good laught together, LOL. Jan 09 07 04:59 am Link very interesting... last november i signed up in omp and i just put 4 photos. then i got this email from him as well: Hi Danella, OMP emailed me your photo, and they said that you were fairly new to this site. I took a look at your profile, and can see that you could use pro shots. Please dont take offence to this, but the shots you have posted are just not so great. You have a REALLY BEAUTIFUL look, but your photos can be improved. I have very good rates for omp members and new models just starting out. You need edgy, sexy shots that pop, and sell you. Please check out my website at www............com. I have photographed many members here on omp, and have had their responses for work greatly increase. I also am working for 2 modeling agencies in Beverly Hills, and am a photographer for The Friars Club. I network with agents, and casting directors weekly, and know what they are looking for. If youd like to work with me we can schedule you for a shoot, and Ill give you a fantastic deal. Thanks so much, and I look forward to hearing back from you. -....... ................ ............ _____________ I replied Hello ..........., My photos are "not so great"...? Interesting. No worries, I'm not offended.  Being new to omp does not mean one is new to modeling... Thank you for your offer, but I'd have to decline. Thank you though Happy Thanksgiving, Danella Lucioni http://www.justdanella.com _____________ I did feel a little insulted but tried to calm down when i replied to him. He does not have many photos on his website (maybe 8?), and none of them are in the Friars Club in BH. I did a fashion show there so I would know what it looks like. And I hate to be mean but the photographers I have worked with are AT LEAST as good as him, many even better, so I took it a bit personal when he said my photos were "not so great". I realized what he wrote was just fine, I guess he is trying to market his services, which is not a bad thing to do. Oh well move on d justdanella.com Jan 09 07 05:40 am Link BTW, I work with the BS Club and know lots of pro models and agencies; unfortunately, they don't know me, ahahaha. Jan 09 07 05:49 am Link Jami Lea wrote: I had the same reaction. I said 25. You are a very beautiful lady. Please don't be too upset by the low-life that can't sell better than that. You have a nice port. Jan 09 07 06:02 am Link Kalene wrote: It *is* rude, because it implies that she doesn't know good photographs from bad because she has bad photographs in her portfolio. It's also stupid, because you do not make work for yourself tearing others down (unless you're a politician.) Were I a model who had recieved the aforementioned letter, I would respond with a polite, "Not interested at this time, thank you." Jan 09 07 09:21 am Link does not seem to rude to me, from what i know of the NYC fashion photographers they all dog each others work lol. Jan 09 07 09:23 am Link Ryan6663 wrote: While it's true that rudeness is in the eye of the beholder, just because there are a lot of rude people around doesn't make what they do any less rude. Jan 09 07 09:45 am Link I like your port....especially the shot with the train engine in the background. You're port says you are 39.....WoW....that should end the discussion about mature models being sexy! Jan 09 07 09:47 am Link jonathan ledeux wrote: Thank you! Your opinion is valuable for me. Jan 09 07 11:53 am Link Danella L. wrote: This is exactly how I felt. Thanks for sharing, it was helpful. Jan 09 07 11:57 am Link TroisCouleurs wrote: WHAT A LOSER HEHEHE Jan 09 07 12:01 pm Link I am not upset anymore. Why did I even spent time readin his letter ? Thank you all for support ! Jan 09 07 12:01 pm Link TroisCouleurs wrote: Oh, at my age, I try to be entertained over disgusted. I keep the control of my moods to myself and out of the control of the jerks that way. Jan 09 07 12:28 pm Link I had this happen with someone similar (though not out of CA) when I joined omp. The BEST part was that the idiot contacted me not once, but TWICE with the SAME requests. He had NOTHING in his port (only two photos posted, and a free account) and was claiming to be some high faluten photographer. His website required a download to view (which is just plain poor business practice - you don't want potential customers to be required to do something to see your wares!), and then he got offended that I was going to have someone with me at the shoot, claiming that I had emotional baggage if I wanted someone to be there. It was pretty funny. The second time was even better. After he got all pissed at me AGAIN after we went through the exact same scenario, I sent him a final email and asked him if he was going to remember that he'd contacted me already next time or were we going to have to go through this a third time? I just laughed. Justin wrote: See this is a sticky situation... How does one make oneself known to individuals and let them know that you desire to be paid if possible without sounding like a crappy sales pitch. My usual line is "If you have any paying work available please do let me know." Its the best I can come up with. People always seem to get insulted when others decline to give them money when they ask for it. Its a very sticky situation for sure... TroisCouleurs wrote: Why do I get this image out of Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail... Then we shall say TFP (said in the tone of NI!) until you succomb!!! TFP!TFP!TFP!TFP!! Jan 09 07 06:01 pm Link Wait... isn't the Friar's Club the one that does all the roasts? Maybe he was roasting you, in which case, you've arrived! Jan 09 07 06:05 pm Link Sounds kinda like he worked at Walmart Photos for less 5 8X10s, 50 5X7s, 400 wallets, all for $1.99 I have great rates and have shot for sams club and Kmart LOLOLOL Jan 09 07 06:08 pm Link A photographer should not praise a model by berating another photographer's work. Let the portfolio speak for itself, and if the improvement is obvious, the model should notice. That being said, there are a lot of models that don't know the difference, and it smarts when they keep inferior images in their ports, sometimes even after you have shot with them and provided superior replacements. Still, a photographer should avoid berating another... Jan 09 07 06:19 pm Link |
