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Forums > General Industry > Why do some photographers insist on escorts???

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45475

San Juan Bautista, California, US

I don't understand why photographers should care one way or another.  I don't have a problem with models bringing escorts.  If it's discussed in advance, and both the model and photographer have no problem with it, then it's a non issue. 

There are many photographers and models here who don't have a problem with escorts and then there are many who insist that you don't have an escort.  It's a matter of communication and trust.  Why is this topic so important?  So find someone who is of the same mind as you and get to work!

Best wishes!

Dec 27 06 02:21 am Link

Model

123455534343

Posts: 9488

Arthur's Town, Cat Island, Bahamas

Dec 27 06 02:25 am Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45475

San Juan Bautista, California, US

Rena wrote:
This should help:

https://modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=27501

OMG!  That's the monster of all threads here!  And it wont die! hmm 

No, I'm not debating. I would like to know why this is so important as to warrant such a long thread without having to read all that mess.  If I should be fine with models bringing escorts or NOT be fine with it should not matter in the least to any other photographer.  Please tell me why so many other people here wish to convince others that thinking like them on this topic is such an issue?  I don't see how it should be important to any other photographer if I allow escorts or not, right?  hmm    Then why such a long thread on it?  Should I even read it? ... I posted on it like a year ago or something!

Dec 27 06 02:35 am Link

Photographer

ImageConcepts

Posts: 447

San Francisco, California, US

Because now a days, you can't be carefull as there are many sue happy people out there who may want to make a quick buck out of you.

Dec 27 06 02:38 am Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45475

San Juan Bautista, California, US

ImageConcepts wrote:
Because now a days, you can't be carefull as there are many sue happy people out there who may want to make a quick buck out of you.

Oh I understand that.  Everything is negotiable.  Just like with the "pay or TFP" issues.  It's about communication.  If I agree to a model bringing an escort, well then the model should have no problem with me having an assistant too.  I let the escorts know in advance what is expected of them.  That is also communication.  You know what?  I have had no problems with "flakes" or "escorts" or any of these other issues that pop up constantly in the threads.  I attribute it to communication skills. They say Liberal Arts degrees are useless?  Maybe four years of college communications courses paid off for me after all ... wink

Dec 27 06 02:58 am Link

Photographer

CantikFotos

Posts: 256

I always bring 2 escorts (Leroy and Bubba) to my photoshoots. They help carry the equipment and the beer. Most models realize I want them there for my security. And to make the occasional beer run, of course. ;^)

Dec 27 06 04:16 am Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45475

San Juan Bautista, California, US

CantikFotos wrote:
I always bring 2 escorts (Leroy and Bubba) to my photoshoots. They help carry the equipment and the beer. Most models realize I want them there for my security. And to make the occasional beer run, of course. ;^)

I just felt so left out being in the minority who doesn't see this as an issue.  tongue

Bring on the photographer who insist on having escorts carry the equipment and beer!

Dec 28 06 08:31 pm Link

Photographer

Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

Patrick - I'm curious as to why you would start a thread with the identical title and apparent intent as one that's been going on for quite some time.

Dec 28 06 09:27 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45475

San Juan Bautista, California, US

Curt Burgess wrote:
Patrick - I'm curious as to why you would start a thread with the identical title and apparent intent as one that's been going on for quite some time.

Well first of all, it's not the exact title.  Second, I am honestly curious as to why "escorts" are such an important topic of discussion over other matters that photographers may find of interest.  Until I joined Model Mayhem, I never knew that the topic of "escorts" was so very important! Am I just not with it? Maybe I missed something?

I don't have the time to read such a huge thread!

Dec 28 06 10:39 pm Link

Photographer

Studio 3-1-oh

Posts: 493

Nice to see such a new and unique topical thread.

Dec 28 06 10:41 pm Link

Wardrobe Stylist

stylist man

Posts: 34382

New York, New York, US

Patrick Walberg wrote:
I don't have the time to read such a huge thread!

Try reading one of the other threads.

Search for escort
https://modelmayhem.com/search.php?sear … mit=Search

Search for chaperone
https://www.modelmayhem.com/search.php? … mit=Search

I am unconvinced of the value of this thread.



Mhana moderator.

Dec 28 06 11:03 pm Link