Emotive Photography wrote:

LMAO,,,and yet another one did not read this and in the vein in which it was intended.  The thread was NOT talking about art models, or models who do this as a hobby.

I respect your liberal, "tree-hugging" approach to this, and your hobby, but what was meant as it was clearly written is that professionalism is not a piece of paper it is about attitude.

There is not just one world...

Emotive Photography wrote:
The reason for this is because "internet" models have nothing to lose by being flakes.  Where as agency models lose contracts, singings and paying jobs.  I have yet to have a agency (professional) model even be late much less flake!  Professional is not a piece of paper is it attitude and respect.  I implore models to look up the definition of "professionalism" and see how close you come to it?

Um so by your defintion internet models do not get paying jobs, contracts, signings???

Iona Lynn wrote:
Um so by your defintion internet models do not get paying jobs, contracts, signings???

No that is not at all what I am saying.  What I clearly said is that the difference is about "professionalism, attitude and respect" not anything other than that.  I was saying that with these attributes then the definiton between Internet models and agency models no longer matter.  LOL

SayCheeZ! wrote:
Yeah, and get a load of this...
                                 ... alot of guys think they're a photographer!

For real!

Trevor Snyder wrote:
They laughed at the man who invented the steam engine too. There are two choices in life - you can try and possibly you will become something you're not. Or you can lurk on the Internet criticizing other people and feeling smug.

I'm inclined to support people as long as they are not dangerously delusional.

You're a good man. We need more like you!

Jay Farrell wrote:
Funny I should find this thread, after getting an e mail notification from OMP about a new model in my state.....shitty webcam stills, over 200 pounds, I mean what the fuck....

  G'morning, Jay!  Thanks for the chuckle - in the land of the free and the home of the brave ('cause OMP's new model from TN has some cajones, doesn't she/he?).

Vance wrote:
I wanna be a photgrapher..Oh wait..never mind..I did that already..

I wanna be an astronaut now. Got my space suit and all.

Now if I can just find away onto the launch pad, I am sure once they see me, they will know I am serious and let me onboard.

All you need is heart right?

Emotive Photography wrote:

LMAO,,,and yet another one did not read this and in the vein in which it was intended.  The thread was NOT talking about art models, or models who do this as a hobby.

Where was any indication given that you or anyone else were talking exclusively about commercial modeling?  You said, "...I said there are 2 kinds of models..." not, "...I said there are 2 kinds of non-art, non-hobbyist models..."

Lestari wrote:

My mom thinks I cant be a model..

Emotive Photography wrote:
I had this conversation with a model and she did not like it when I said there are 2 kinds of models: 

1)  Professional models, aka agency models

2)  Internet models, those who were told they should be modeling but really shouldn't

I would amend this to:

1) Models who act professionally; and

2) Those who were told they should be modeling but really shouldn't.

Whether they get gigs for themselves on the Internet or through their agents is irrelevant.

MsChris wrote:

You're a good man. We need more like you!

Thank you for the sentiment.

Vance wrote:
I wanna be a photgrapher..Oh wait..never mind..I did that already..

I wanna be an astronaut now. Got my space suit and all.

Now if I can just find away onto the launch pad, I am sure once they see me, they will know I am serious and let me onboard.

All you need is heart right?

Actually you need a lot of money to get the Russians to fly you into space.

Cristina Ashley wrote:
pretending to be able to model is fun though.

at who's cost? lol.

byReno wrote:
I was not a photographer the first time I took a picture.  I became a photographer the moment I felt the desire to photograph.  I may be good; I may be bad but a photographer nevertheless.  If a person is chosen to be my subject they become a model, if only for a brief period of time.  They don’t need to be pretty.  They don’t need to be thin.  That is only a requirement for some specific genres.  Most think modeling is so so easy.  It is not. Like everything else there are good and bad.  The desire and effort is what determines which.

I agree. Couldn't have said it better myself.

*sets off to become the greatest model to model anything...ever*

lol

Image K wrote:

Agreed.

There are just as many Photographer-wannabees as Model-wanabees...

Perfectly said...

joshua ellis wrote:
when everyone and their mother thinks they can be a model.



point well taken!

Ohtehnoes!!11eleventlyone!!11
The model police.
Can I see your badge please

ravens laughter wrote:
just because you can push a plunger

Plummers make much more money...

David Linke wrote:

The official governing body is the market place just as it is in any business!  If you can garner enough work to survive you are official.  If you can't, you will sooner or later fall by the wayside to make room for someone else.

Very true....and more often than not...those who know the least are the ones who brag that they know the most....especially family, friends and others who have no experience in modeling......or are new in the business and havent quite yet learned what they think they already know

Lestari wrote:
My mom thinks I cant be a model..

... and your mom's opinion is a qualified one becaauuse...?