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Posts: 10303

Los Angeles, California, US

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Sorry guys, I'm done with the Critique forum.  The moderation in this forum is a joke (a bad one at that) and it's only a matter of time before I'm figuratively spanked for hurting one of your feelings.

So my global critique (in a format apparently mandated by moderation despite contradictory language in the rules) to all of you "You're all winners for trying, and no...you've never made a mistake! borat"

Aug 29 14 11:52 am Link

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Llobet Photography

Posts: 4915

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

I'll take a critique. smile

Aug 29 14 12:16 pm Link

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J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

Sounds like you're putting more thought into this than the typical MM "critique" - so I'm open...

Aug 29 14 12:18 pm Link

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AndyD10

Posts: 352

Dublin, Dublin, Ireland

This could be interesting.  Please tell me what (IYHO) I need to know.

Aug 29 14 12:21 pm Link

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Blaire_

Posts: 343

Portland, Oregon, US

No smoke, please!!

Aug 29 14 12:23 pm Link

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Glenn Worton

Posts: 1444

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

I'd love your opinion

Aug 29 14 12:28 pm Link

Photographer

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Posts: 10303

Los Angeles, California, US

BlueMoonPics wrote:
I'll take a critique. smile

I started by reading your profile; at first I was really impressed by it, especially the amount of information that was presented and the fact that it was all still very relevant.  The inclusion of the social media links was a smart thing too, wish I had thought of that lol.  That being said, it's very close to being too much information.  It may be fine as is, but I would warn against adding anything else without removing something first.  Models on this site already don't read profiles as is, so giving them a chapter out of your life is surely going to get the ADD started with some girls here.

On to your portfolio:
I really enjoyed some images (see: https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/1 … 871e90.jpg) but the critique is supposed to be "how to improve" so I'll recommend being a little more picky when it comes to makeup.  It's a bit heavy in a couple photos, the most notable being: https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/36201258 and I'm not sure if that's heavy D&B or some major contouring on the MUA's part, but I would've toned it down a bit.

Also, be careful with angles.  Some models don't shoot well straight on, and their shoulders can look very broad (like a linebacker's).  Even if the model is a broad-shouldered individual, we have to be able to take a little creative license and try to position her in such a way that would minimize that.  Be careful of wardrobe too, baggy/loose items shot in certain ways can suggest that the model is "bigger" than she is in reality.  For examples of both see:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/28644508
https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/36201133

All in all, not bad work though.  Just minor things that can be addressed relatively easy.

Aug 29 14 12:51 pm Link

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Jorge Kreimer

Posts: 3716

San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico

Sure!

Aug 29 14 01:06 pm Link

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sospix

Posts: 23769

Orlando, Florida, US

Well, anything to keep you from havin' ta work on yer website  .  .  .  wink  Blast away  .  .  .

SOS

Aug 29 14 01:11 pm Link

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Dido_Wend

Posts: 1138

Madrid, Madrid, Spain

I fully support procrastination in all its forms, so hit me tongue

Aug 29 14 01:14 pm Link

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JIOPIX

Posts: 1183

Brighton, Ontario, Canada

I'd love to hear your thoughts..

Aug 29 14 01:18 pm Link

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Laura Elizabeth Photo

Posts: 2253

Rochester, New York, US

I'd love to here what you think.

PS your work is amazing smile

Aug 29 14 01:37 pm Link

Photographer

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Posts: 10303

Los Angeles, California, US

J O H N  A L L A N wrote:
Sounds like you're putting more thought into this than the typical MM "critique" - so I'm open...

Your portfolio is all over the place, there's some nice images, and some not so nice images to put it nicely.

For starters, all your nudes should go.  None of them even remotely come close to approaching the quality of your clothed stuff. 

I'm all for breaking rules re: cropping but this one just doesn't work: https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/26089254 18+ being cropped at her ribcage.  Even at this resolution her skin still looks very rough, and the angle from which you shot makes it very vanilla. 

This one: https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/28535109 18+ between the skirt that doesn't work, the messy hair, and her expression...doesn't work. 

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/28619839 18+ Again, expression was a poor choice, retouching seems to be only partially done (see right armpit, lips, belly, forehead), and the shot doesn't work for her body type.  She's very square, and doesn't have the typical coke-bottle shape variance between waist/hips so shooting her straight on only emphasized and even perhaps exaggerated her boxiness.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/33367622 18+ entitled "Fashion 414".  You can't just call something fashion and it'll be so.  Other than the obvious "this isn't a fashion model", the styling is very very bad, and the "Who is that dude creeping in my window at me?" expression again doesn't work.

All the nudes are pretty much the same, but on the other hand the clothed images don't suffer from as much in my opinion.  The only real issues there would be sometimes questionable makeup and poor styling...but that can be remedied by simply looking through current work on fashion blogs and in magazines and working with a different team.

I would say based on your work that I've seen displayed here, that you are clearly a test photographer.  Meaning that the type of images you shoot aren't necessarily editorial or even in some cases mainstream fashion, it's more of a subsect of work that is created more for model's portfolios.  That type of work is good for getting models to shoot with you, and even getting agencies to pay you from time to time.  I would follow that route of shooting, especially with stuff like:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/34296032
https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/35482084
https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/35025764

I think if you kept at it with that type of stuff, not only would your work improve but eventually you'd get better models to test with because agencies eat that stuff up.  No booker would say it flat out when you're emailing to test, but they'll avoid sending you models if they see photos like that, and if they do send some your way it'll all be newbies and minors that they know you can't shoot that stuff with anyway.  I'd avoid the nudes for a while though.  For the moment they just seem like nudes for the sake of nudity, but no real merit behind them other than that.  Delete those, pare your portfolio down to your 10 strongest images, and it'll improve dramatically.

Aug 29 14 05:56 pm Link

Photographer

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Posts: 10303

Los Angeles, California, US

AndyD10 wrote:
This could be interesting.  Please tell me what (IYHO) I need to know.

I see a little fashion/portraiture, and a lot of art.  I actually like some of the art stuff, so I would focus on that, but instead of just shooting various art concepts I'd like to see you work on a series.  Something that you can put together as a body of work that will reflect what you're doing at the moment.  Kinda like Picasso's Blue Phase.  Find something you want to do, and do it with several models.  Put it together in a folder here, or maybe even make some nice prints and go to a gallery.  I'm always disappointed when I see art photographers who don't have at least a couple series of work.

I know I'm not much for inspiration but maybe a "raw nude/portraiture series" like: https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/1 … cd0fb5.jpg 18+  Or maybe not, but you get the idea.

Aug 29 14 06:10 pm Link

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J Jessica

Posts: 2431

Coconut Creek, Florida, US

Okay. :3

Aug 29 14 06:21 pm Link

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Lee Barnes 2

Posts: 20

Atlanta, Georgia, US

I will like one as well.

Aug 29 14 06:25 pm Link

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Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Sounds good

Aug 29 14 06:47 pm Link

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Garry k

Posts: 30129

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Just popping by to welcome you back to the critique thread

However You don't need to waste your time on any of my work as I have made little progress

I do hope someday though - to take one of your workshops and move somewhere where I can make use of natural outdoor light all year around

Aug 29 14 07:12 pm Link

Model

Stitch Asylum

Posts: 1908

Virginia Beach, Virginia, US

I would love some serious input on my work

Aug 29 14 08:42 pm Link

Model

Pauline Yee

Posts: 406

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

I would really appreciate some feedback!

Aug 29 14 10:34 pm Link

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Jesslyn Kelly

Posts: 46

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

I would absolutely love a critique from you smile

Aug 29 14 11:23 pm Link

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Alison Sutter

Posts: 102

Sacramento, California, US

I would love a critique from you, I am constantly trying to do better. I am actually a great model to work with, however after many of my shoot's I end up saying "crap I could of done... " smile
I am always looking for ways to improve myself however many of the times I talk negatively about my posing I know already that is one and that my expressions need to be more versatile. Other than that I would like to see what you think of them.

Aug 30 14 12:02 am Link

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Camerosity

Posts: 5805

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

Lay it on me.

Aug 30 14 12:11 am Link

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GDS Photos

Posts: 3399

London, England, United Kingdom

Your opinion and ides would be very welcome :-)

Aug 30 14 12:35 am Link

Photographer

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Posts: 10303

Los Angeles, California, US

Blaire_ wrote:
No smoke, please!!

Well for models, generally the best advice is to keep shooting...a lot.  Practice makes perfect and whatnot.  The one thing that bugged me while looking through your photos though (and this might be my fashion-bias here, and probably isn't relevant to an art model), is that your hair is in your face a good bit.  Sometimes not a lot, just a couple whispies, but sometimes it's almost completely hiding it.  Again, I'm not an art photographer...so I can only guess that maybe it's ok to hide or obscure the model's face, and to just focus on the shape/form/lines of the body.  Still bugs me though.  Other than that, I'd like to see maybe some more conceptual stuff.

Aug 30 14 12:40 am Link

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Eros Fine Art Photo

Posts: 3097

Torrance, California, US

Do tell.  I'm thinking if taking classes to push my work to the next level.

Aug 30 14 01:45 am Link

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JustinWKing

Posts: 69

New York, New York, US

I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Aug 30 14 02:20 am Link

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TDSImages

Posts: 1017

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

Tell me...

Aug 30 14 08:21 am Link

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erics_Toronto_GTA

Posts: 5176

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I'm shaking in my boots.

Aug 30 14 09:34 am Link

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Axioma

Posts: 6822

Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium

yes, please

Aug 30 14 10:11 am Link

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Chloe Selene

Posts: 636

Albuquerque, New Mexico, US

You've got a lot of takers, but I'd love your opinion if you're still going.  smile Thanks.

Aug 30 14 11:04 am Link

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Henry Westheim

Posts: 658

Taichung City, Taichung City, Taiwan

I'd greatly appreciate hearing your thoughts.  Cheers!

Aug 30 14 11:12 am Link

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Pieter Vandeur

Posts: 1345

Brussels, Brussels, Belgium

I would love to hear your opinion.

Aug 30 14 11:47 am Link

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Anita1993

Posts: 316

Venlo, Limburg, Netherlands

Okay smile

Aug 30 14 12:29 pm Link

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Posts: 10303

Los Angeles, California, US

Glenn Worton wrote:
I'd love your opinion

I would say shoot more, and look through current art nude publications for an idea on making things more modern.  A lot of the photos are older (2006) and have a dated look to them.  I think just shooting more and having recent work up would help, but also trying new things.  A lot of the photos are repetitious in terms of style, lighting, and even posing and composition.  Gotta get out your box and try something new smile

Aug 30 14 12:41 pm Link

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Paul Tirado Photography

Posts: 4363

New York, New York, US

Sure take a look. Thanks. smile

Aug 30 14 06:20 pm Link

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Robert Hare Photography

Posts: 81

Worcester, Massachusetts, US

Always interested in constructive opinions and guidance.  Thanks

Aug 30 14 08:01 pm Link

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KelsieRae

Posts: 6

Green Bay, Wisconsin, US

Every opinion is helpful(:

Aug 30 14 08:21 pm Link

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Posts: 10303

Los Angeles, California, US

Jorge Kreimer wrote:
Sure!

I like that you've got your style, and theme going for you, and you've tried to explain that in your profile so people can better understand why you do what you do. 

That being said, my biggest issue with your work so far is the cropping on some.  I'm all for breaking the rules and all, but a couple of your photos have gone a little further than that:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/33089685
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/1 … 672f49.jpg

And I distinctly remember one from the model in the thread above but I didn't want to comment on it until I got to your critique.

All in all, it's cool stuff, but little things like that just irk me.  That being said, you're getting published, getting stuff shown in galleries, and apparently don't have any shortage of models to shoot for your projects...so take my opinion with a grain of salt wink

Aug 31 14 11:32 am Link

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Images by MR

Posts: 8908

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I gotta know ..

Aug 31 14 11:37 am Link