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Nude Models who Answer "No" in Profile
Sorry if this has been asked 10000 times, but I am very curious... If a model is open to nudes/topless, but answers "no" on their profile, how do photographers find them to hire for projects? It seems odd to me. Aug 28 14 10:33 am Link BLipman wrote: Sometimes people no longer do nudes, but still have those photos from previous work in their portfolio. Aug 28 14 10:36 am Link BLipman wrote: Aug 28 14 10:41 am Link I just ask them if they have a look I need. Some respond to a casting call that requires nudity as well. And quite a few times ive had agreed clothed shoots end up including nude shots. Maybe they just want to make sure theyre comfortable working with me? Dont know. Aug 28 14 10:50 am Link I'm sure that plenty of models interested in topless or nude projects select "no" on their portfolio just to prevent their inbox from being flooded with messages and bogus requests. You can always ask them, the worst they will say is no. Aug 28 14 10:56 am Link BLipman wrote: Perhaps they wish to be the ones to choose who they do those projects with? Aug 28 14 11:02 am Link Not to hijack the thread, but I know of at least one model that selected 'Yes' for nudes and then goes on a rant in her profile about photographers continually asking her to do nudes and not to even ask. I guess it takes all kinds. Aug 28 14 11:12 am Link Eventide Artistry wrote: +1 Aug 28 14 11:18 am Link i think one can go mental pondering this very popular topic. if you want to shoot nudes with them then just ask. or find a model who has checked nudes. you do see posts from models upset about getting so many requests for nudes. but i don't know if they are the ones with nudes in their portfolio. and i'm not aware of any site rule against asking a model whether she does nudes. Aug 28 14 11:23 am Link BLipman wrote: Some models simply say no because they get too many offers from people with lesser quality of work. Aug 28 14 11:32 am Link BLipman wrote: they use the browse feature. nothing odd there. Aug 28 14 11:45 am Link I think this is a feature problem, I also find it's hard to use the browse feature and find the right person. I think what we need to do is add a list of categories that a member specializes in, and another list of categories that the member "also" does on the side. Aug 28 14 04:11 pm Link BLipman wrote: Many models who have "no" in their profile are open to nudes provided they are confident that the nudes will be more tasteful than the typical men's mag examples. Aug 29 14 05:12 pm Link I can see having some old pics in the portfolio in spite of having decided to no longer shoot nudes. If you're a model who is willing to shoot nudes but says no as a means of weeding out those who you might not like to shoot nude with and hope that the better photographers will go ahead and ask, you're playing a stupid game. On one hand we have models who complain about always being asked to shoot nudes and then we have some who say they won't but hope the right people will ask, what are photographers to think? Doesn't this make it worse for those models who don't want to be asked as the photographer might think they really do? This is manipulative B.S. You don't want to shoot nudes, mark your profile "no". You're open to shooting nudes, mark your profile "yes" If you will shoot nudes with a select few, mark your profile either way and then note in your profile that you will consider shooting nudes with a select few. And, deal with the fact that some people you don't want to shoot nude with will ask you to do so. Get over it, learn to say no without guilt. Say what you mean, mean what you say and don't get bent out of shape when people can't read between the lines or pick up on your personal telepathy. Aug 29 14 05:26 pm Link BLipman wrote: They trust the person. Aug 29 14 05:33 pm Link I have worked with several models that have selected "NO" in their profile but are willing to do topless work, if the concept is good. All responded to castings that required implied/part nudity. Maybe there should be a selection for "part nude" in the criteria to make it clear that they will not do full nude but part is fine. Aug 29 14 05:39 pm Link I think it should be assumed that every model, regardless of what they have selected regarding nudity, has the right to say no. It shouldn't be assumed by anyone that just because a model has checked yes, that they are willing to do so for anyone who asks. Now and then it seems like there is a photographer posting here who is under the impression that someone who says they shoot nude is somehow obligated if they are asked to do so. That's not cool. Some of you are pretty creepy.  Aug 29 14 05:43 pm Link Personally, I selected no because you get a flood of guys with cameras and not photographers who want to work with you along those line. Selecting no gives you the opportunity to choose which photogs/projects you want to do without being flooded by a guy who just wants some photos of naked girls cause he has a camera. Basically, it helps filter out the creeps. Aug 29 14 05:45 pm Link Models select a public NO for a number of reasons. None of them really my business. To me, no means no. I have directly ask those that select YES. I indirectly ask those that say NO. I have had great luck with Casting Calls/Availability Notices. I have asked nude models for referrals. After working with models, I get a feel for those receptive to nude shoot offers. Many models now approach me for nudes for a range of reasons. Aug 29 14 06:07 pm Link Hmm, I always thought No meant No. I have had many circumstances with models that have No Nude listed in their profile, but then respond to my nude casting call, or email me with a request for a nude session. Invariably, when I inquire, they do that because that do not wish to be bombarded by GWCs for nudie sessions. Perfectly understandable. Great plan for personal safety, and I applaud it. Easier than saying "your photography sucks and I don't want to shoot with you." Cop out. Models do YOUR job and vet photographers before you shoot with them before assuming guilty until proven innocent. Now lets put the shoe on the other foot. Model has no nude in their profile, but they agree to a nude session. Then there is some later disagreement, and the model, for pure retribution, claims "he made me shoot nude, see its in my profile, no nudes". Possible legal action - despite a release. The words spreads - and quickly in this industry. Not worth the hassle. I have no desire to tangle with a psycho, be it model or anyone else. Just as models should do due diligence on the photographers, photographers should properly vet models, and this is just part of my process. Catch-22. Easy solution - I never shoot anyone with no nude in profile but who agrees to shoot nude. Will I miss some folks. I suppose. Oh well. My peace of mind and reputation is more important than working with any one person. As you all know, there are a million models, and a million photographers. There is no dearth of "talent" out there. Just my take. Of course, the profile can be changed/altered at any time. So it's not a perfect plan. Jerry Aug 29 14 06:08 pm Link If I was going to shoot nudes I would just post s casting. If a model who has no selected and no samples (or otherwise doesn't fit) I would simply turn them down. If I was wanting a specific look, I would contac them with details about what I wanted to do. Include visual examples if possible, team members involved, and the like. Just like any other casting. Wardrobe should not change how one acts or casts. Aug 29 14 06:25 pm Link Because they don't want to shoot nude with just anyone, anytime... the only other option is yes which could, of course, be inaccurate more often than no in many cases. The listing doesn't read "will you always shoot nude", or "do you never shoot nude" and there is no "maybe", "sometimes" or "with the right person in the right situation" option to make the listing conform with real life better. A polite inquiry and apology if offense is taken seems to work fine in my view. Aug 30 14 10:55 am Link KyndraJ wrote: This. I selected fetish when I first got started here and I got bombarded with people fitting this description (creeps and/or had a portfolio with photos I really wasn't a fan of) Aug 30 14 10:58 am Link I've had plenty of models who state "No" to Nudes in their profile contact me in regards to nude work. Sometimes it's for a specific casting I posted, but often it's just that they like my work and want to add that style to their portfolio. In other words, I'm sure (as stated previously in this thread) that models who are open to or have done nude work that click "no" on the Nudes option in their profile probably just want to cut down on the creeps who only want to see nude girls. Or they simply want to be the ones doing the contacting in regards to nude work. If they are completely closed off to the idea of nude work, there will usually be an extra note in their "About Me" stating such. Aug 30 14 11:11 am Link If a model says NO, just DON'T ASK. If that's stopping him/her from getting work (TF, paid, or both) that he/she wants, then never receiving those inquiries would be the best possible incentive to change the posted "no" and open up that area. Yes, I have had models who "don't shoot nudes" shoot nudes with me. And yes, that was after they contacted ME to tell me they wanted to shoot nudes with me. Completely their prerogative. Very likely, some models do NOT want masses of nude inquiries, so post "NO" in their profile, while wishing to pick and choose excellent photographers they may themselves wish to contact about a shoot. Again, their prerogative. If it says NO, just don't ask. It DOES hurt to ask - it very frequently angers and frustrates people who put that notation there for a reason, and wastes their time and yours. Aug 30 14 11:25 am Link I've shot quite a lot of nude models whose profiles state that they do not pose nude. They do this to stop the creeps hassling them. Many models who have nude or semi nude shots in their profiles are open to nude work if they like your style & you are experienced. In my case it's my speciality so they will often contact me first & when I check their profiles in many cases they say no to nakedness. It's just another example of no means yes maybe. ha ha Sep 01 14 08:34 am Link Sometimes they do . . . just not with you . . . Sep 01 14 08:54 am Link BLipman wrote: By placing ads on Craigslist. When I have used Craigslist, I usually get some MM models responding. At least one had and still has a "No" on her profile but was eager to pose nude for me. Sep 01 14 09:41 am Link If you are looking for a path to find "really do shoot nudes but say "no" on profile" models - that not going to be very productive. If they check "NO" and still do nudes - that means that they are usually very selective - or they have a reason why nudes associated with them directly is a problem. Clicking "yes" advertises it on MM and the searches and some may not wish to publicize their nude work. I find that some models will do the 2nd profile for nudes - and be electronically isolated from their non-nude profiles - no links etc. So, the model with "No Nudes" on one profile is fine with them under another name and profile. I don't seek them out - but on occasion - you will run across somebody that seeks you out. Sep 01 14 10:20 am Link It makes sense to ask your question. A models port if she is looking for work should profile what she is offering at the time. If your not shooting nudes anymore then take nude out of port. I look at a MM Modeling port as just a public compcard with a little bit of color. Meaning instead of just mug shot type photos you can have a shot that shows you in a little creativity. (Not too much) A photographer can look at what you look like and your shape and decide if you will fit the project he has in his mind. As far as saying no to shooting nude but you do shoot nudes? I think is cutting your nose off in spite of your face. Make use of every tool that avail to get work. You can always say no (and you will) to photographers that want to work with you but you don't want to work with them for what ever reason. But if you don't have the search tool clicked and you shoot nudes then don't complain if your not getting any offers for work. If you are very selective on who you shoot nudes with? Then check yes and write on your port that you are extremely selective on who you chose to do nude work with. The same goes for age tools ETC... The more honest information you give the less chance there will be any disappointments, resentments, regrets, feelings of being ripped off. I think you get it. Sep 01 14 11:04 am Link BLipman wrote: The model might just be saying no to the prodject? Sep 01 14 11:19 am Link KyndraJ wrote: I see this as the reason more often. Sep 01 14 11:27 am Link BLipman wrote: Rob Photosby wrote: +1 Sep 01 14 11:45 am Link Some models don't do full nudes..... Sep 01 14 11:58 am Link BLipman wrote: Right, but now this has been asked 10001 times. There is no one answer. Who knows? Sep 01 14 07:08 pm Link hi. i'm one of those models. i selected no because i'm very selective with who i shoot nudes with. i don't want shitty photos of me floating around on the internet. Sep 01 14 07:24 pm Link Nobody reads profiles, don't be silly... we just look at the pretty pictures  Sep 01 14 08:01 pm Link BLipman wrote: The short answer is (1) MM 18+ Casting Calls, and (2) Craigslist ads for a nude model. Sep 08 14 07:51 am Link I had a model that has their portfolio marked NO answer a casting for nudes. I confirmed that she read and understood the casting. (Some don't.) it was a great shoot, and after I asked why NO when she was comfortable with YES? She saw my laptop sitting on the table and said "Let me show you." She logged on to her account and showed me messages shed received when she first set up the profile and said YES. Some really nasty crap from porn dealers, guys that are VERY creepy, and other assorted shit. Then I understood why. Sep 08 14 09:45 am Link Many MM models dont care about being 'found" Sep 08 14 09:47 am Link |
