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Paul Best

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

If you own ipad 2 just dont upgrade any updates that slow down your ipad like they did the iphone 3g so people would be like omg my iphone is dyning i need the new one , no you dont , you just need apple to stop sabatoge pruduct that work just fine ..

Mar 07 12 12:30 pm Link

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Connor Photography

Posts: 8539

Newark, Delaware, US

paul best  wrote:
If you own ipad 2 just dont upgrade any updates that slow down your ipad like they did the iphone 3g so people would be like omg my iphone is dyning i need the new one , no you dont , you just need apple to stop sabatoge pruduct that work just fine ..

DO you have solid lead on this?  or just just guessing. It is foolish that Apple would do such blatant acts.  It is not difficult to get caught with heavy fine and class lawsuit.  Their products are brilliant, they don't need to do that.

Mar 07 12 12:58 pm Link

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John Lei

Posts: 845

San Francisco, California, US

Is there a way to tether to an ipad?

Mar 07 12 01:06 pm Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

If only the new iPad had three times the resolution of the old one, then it would be a good match for the new D800.

Mar 07 12 01:11 pm Link

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Jon Owens - GB Studios

Posts: 42

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

where is this new tethering feature that everyone is talking about. I don't see anything about it. Honestly, this iPad is rather disappointing to me

Mar 07 12 03:22 pm Link

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Tony Lawrence

Posts: 21526

Chicago, Illinois, US

Jon Owens - GB Studios wrote:
where is this new tethering feature that everyone is talking about. I don't see anything about it. Honestly, this iPad is rather disappointing to me

Sigh...http://drtimtyson.com/blog/archives/2011/03/forget_tethering_wireless_hd_o.html  should work also for the iPad HD as well.   You can also tether wireless with the eye -fi SD card another option:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0LbOWbi … re=related

Mar 07 12 03:58 pm Link

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Jason Haven

Posts: 38381

Washington, District of Columbia, US

I think what's missed in all of this is Apple is still selling the iPad 2, now starting at $399.

Just yesterday, the iPad 2 was the best tablet on the market (I'm sure some will argue that fact, but whatever), and now it's one of the cheaper 10" tablets on the market outside of no name Chinese brands.

Mar 07 12 04:30 pm Link

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GER Photography

Posts: 8463

Imperial, California, US

I love the hell out of my ipad1, don't see a need for anything else. I don't even use my Mac Book Pro on the Internet anymore, just this!!

Mar 07 12 04:41 pm Link

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Quang Dang

Posts: 2966

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

George Ruge wrote:
I love the hell out of my ipad1, don't see a need for anything else. I don't even use my Mac Book Pro on the Internet anymore, just this!!

Once you see the new iPad in action regarding the resolution, quadcore processor and 10 hour battery life, you would probably change your mind and want it...

Mar 07 12 04:44 pm Link

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Mark C Smith

Posts: 1073

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Quang Dang wrote:

Once you see the new iPad in action regarding the resolution, quadcore processor and 10 hour battery life, you would probably change your mind and want it...

I hope you're getting a commission for all this shilling big_smile

Mar 07 12 06:07 pm Link

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MountAnnanImages

Posts: 46

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Sorry .. but Photoshop (the full version) does not run on any version of the iPad, let alone iPad3. Can't wait for this to happen, though. The big issue: when?

Mar 07 12 06:14 pm Link

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Dark Shadows

Posts: 2269

Miami, Florida, US

MountAnnanImages wrote:
Sorry .. but Photoshop (the full version) does not run on any version of the iPad, let alone iPad3. Can't wait for this to happen, though. The big issue: when?

If you need the full version of Photoshop to run, what you want is a Macbook Air. It's almost as small as an iPad and will run Photoshop just fine.


The iPad is more like a super convenient digital portfolio, browser, email client, and portable contract generator, with a few other 'toys' to keep you occupied during a flight or while waiting for a client to show up, or downtime. That's how I use it, anyway. It's enough most of the time, but no it's not a 'full fledged' (desktop replacement) computer.

Mar 07 12 06:19 pm Link

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Quang Dang

Posts: 2966

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Mark C Smith wrote:

I hope you're getting a commission for all this shilling big_smile

LOL!
not at all I just like Apple products better than... u know the rest

Mar 07 12 06:52 pm Link

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Quang Dang

Posts: 2966

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

MountAnnanImages wrote:
Sorry .. but Photoshop (the full version) does not run on any version of the iPad, let alone iPad3. Can't wait for this to happen, though. The big issue: when?

Who saying Photoshop full version will run on iPad?? LOL
but Adobe Photoshop Touch borat

Mar 07 12 06:54 pm Link

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John Olive

Posts: 204

Miami, Florida, US

Robb Mann wrote:
If only the new iPad had three times the resolution of the old one, then it would be a good match for the new D800.

It actually has four times:

apple.com wrote:
The Retina display on the new iPad features a 2048-by-1536 resolution, 44 percent greater color saturation, and an astounding 3.1 million pixels — in the same 9.7-inch space. That’s four times the number of pixels in iPad 2 and a million more than an HDTV.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/



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Mar 07 12 07:38 pm Link

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GCobb Photography

Posts: 15898

Southaven, Mississippi, US

Dan K Photography wrote:
I have not seen anything about the IPAD 3 but damn are you guys  hyping it up. I can't even imagine what it could have to make you guys so excited.

The Apple Fan Club does this.

Mar 07 12 08:03 pm Link

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Gulag

Posts: 1253

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Too bad it doesn't come with 48MP camera that takes your E mount or F-mount glasses.

Mar 07 12 08:45 pm Link

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RacerXPhoto

Posts: 2521

Brooklyn, New York, US

Apple’s new iPad can max out your data plan in 10 minutes

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology- … 07105.html

Mar 07 12 09:46 pm Link

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Matt Knowles

Posts: 3592

Ferndale, California, US

Connor Photography wrote:
I will get one.  I don't know if AT&T or Verizon will grandfather the unlimited 4G data package for me.  All our iPhone and Android have unlimited data package deal.   

Anyone know?

I don't know about Verizon, but AT&T is going to be getting rid of unlimited data plans. Your grandfather just died.

Mar 07 12 09:54 pm Link

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Faulty Focus

Posts: 696

Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada

Quang Dang wrote:
Whoever owning iPad 1 or 2, Samsung, Blackberry Playbook (which sucks btw), Sony or any others clones should think to sell them and buy this one tongue

Just a thought!

I have an Ipad 2 and a Blackberry Playbook. I had the Ipad first, then bought the Playbook because I like my BB phone so much. Now my Ipad 2 has not been used for a month, yet I use the Playbook daily.  I prefer it to the Ipad, so after carrying both for 4 months, the Playbook is the winner for me.

Mar 07 12 10:40 pm Link

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Faulty Focus

Posts: 696

Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada

I cannot imagine doing any serious editing on an Ipad. I sometimes edit on my laptop, but only if I really have to or I am very bored when I am travelling. MY results are better and faster on the desktop.

Mar 07 12 10:44 pm Link

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P O T T S

Posts: 5471

Lake City, Florida, US

Connor Photography wrote:

DO you have solid lead on this?  or just just guessing. It is foolish that Apple would do such blatant acts.  It is not difficult to get caught with heavy fine and class lawsuit.  Their products are brilliant, they don't need to do that.

Many people, some I know personally, reported issues with the iOS 5 updates and 3gs series phones. Made them extremely slow.

Mar 08 12 06:41 am Link

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Neil Snape

Posts: 9474

Paris, Île-de-France, France

P O T T S wrote:

Many people, some I know personally, reported issues with the iOS 5 updates and 3gs series phones. Made them extremely slow.

I still use an old iPhone 3G. When updating to 4.x it became quite slow and finicky. Things like delays when entering key strokes etc. Yet no way to easily go back.

Yes I know you can save out IPSW from TinyUmbrella but I run a clean phone, never jail broken etc.

Although Apple have adapted much Open Source, they are nor open to retro grading in case of their errors.

Mar 08 12 06:48 am Link

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Moon Pix Photography

Posts: 3907

Syracuse, New York, US

Chris McDuffie wrote:
Photoshop will be awesome on this.

I don't even think you can use photoshop on this.  What is under the hood?  Does it have enough processing power, RAM, Graphic Card, etc... to make this suitable for photoshop even if you can edit on it? 

I think I could put $500 into a machine that would be much better suited to editing images.  I spent just over $1,000 building a computer that would have cost me at least $5,000 if it were an Apple product.

Mar 08 12 07:01 am Link

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Quang Dang

Posts: 2966

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

michael shi wrote:
Too bad it doesn't come with 48MP camera that takes your E mount or F-mount glasses.

What the heck are u talking about?

This is iPad from Apple and unlike Canon/Nikon they don't make cameras... Well not yet

Mar 08 12 11:18 am Link

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Quang Dang

Posts: 2966

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Faulty Focus wrote:
I have an Ipad 2 and a Blackberry Playbook. I had the Ipad first, then bought the Playbook because I like my BB phone so much. Now my Ipad 2 has not been used for a month, yet I use the Playbook daily.  I prefer it to the Ipad, so after carrying both for 4 months, the Playbook is the winner for me.

I never owned any Blackberry products but heard a few friends say they dislike it after switching to iPhone and iPad. Honestly I'm not a fan of Blackberry either.

Well if you're happy with Playbook and iPad 2 that's your choice dude. But if I was you I would sell at least one tablet and get new iPad smile

Mar 08 12 11:24 am Link

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ChristerArt

Posts: 2861

Cambridge, England, United Kingdom

P O T T S wrote:
I have a 1, and my wife has a 2. So I am not anti-iPad.

The resolution will now catch up to their competitors. The Android market is now outpacing the iOS market. They have not come up with a game changer, unless you are an apple only person. They have come up with an update. The iPad was a game changer. This is an update to a good product.

I would watch for the next wave of Android tablets to get really good. I switched to an Android phone and would never go have an iPhone now.

I think you've been drinking Android Cool aid..=*^)

You should perhaps read this article from Tech.pinions:

A couple of excerpts:

Every Android smartphone owner who goes gaga over their somewhat high resolution screen should thank Apple. The Retina display kicked off the trend of higher resolution phone displays. Once consumers saw, and are still captivated by that screen, it became very hard for a device to be successful at the mid to high end without a high resolution screen.


The same will now be true of tablets. There will now be a resolution race to catch up with Apple’s Retina display on the new iPad. Which you absolutely have to see to believe. There has never been such a high resolution display on a mobile device and seeing such clarity and image quality on a bigger screen changes the experience with the device in a way I never imagined."


and

Apple on the other hand, has what I now consider an insurmountable lead with iPad apps and it will be at least two years, if not longer for other ecosystems to even get close. Even if they did Apple won’t stand still and two years from now their software ecosystem will be even bigger and stronger.

The iPhoto demo alone on the iPad was one of the best software demonstrations I have seen in some time and perhaps the best example of the value of touch computing to date. And by the way its $4.99. If nothing else Apple proved that with software the possibilities are endless with this new category of computing. And hopefully now it is clear to the masses that the iPad is a personal computer and not just for consumption. (Teaser: more on that in my column tomorrow )

So how do others compete? Honestly, at this point in time I am not sure. Apple’s vertically oriented strategy gives them such an advantage that makes competing with them, especially in tablets, extremely difficult.

More here:

http://techpinions.com/the-new-ipad-lea … ehind/5861

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http://www.ChristerArt.com

Mar 08 12 11:26 am Link

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silverystars

Posts: 2524

Allentown, Pennsylvania, US

Faulty Focus wrote:
I cannot imagine doing any serious editing on an Ipad. I sometimes edit on my laptop, but only if I really have to or I am very bored when I am travelling. MY results are better and faster on the desktop.

i've done edits on my iPhone (and iPad) using Snapseed and other tools that i loved so much and then couldn't recreate using photoshop on my desktop.  art is where you find it, i guess.

Mar 08 12 11:26 am Link

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ChristerArt

Posts: 2861

Cambridge, England, United Kingdom

John Lei wrote:
Is there a way to tether to an ipad?

As I understand it - in the US both Horizon and AT&T will allow it - if you pay.

Here in the UK - Jess and I are on Three so we can tether anytime using our 4S' - and no extra cost - we're on unlimited.

Jess' mom has no internet at home and simply use her iPhone 4S and use bluetooth to tether her iPad2 - works perfect - and fast - and no extra cost for an internet provider..=*^)

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Mar 08 12 11:56 am Link

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Chris McDuffie

Posts: 284

Saint Paul, Minnesota, US

silverystars wrote:

i've done edits on my iPhone (and iPad) using Snapseed and other tools that i loved so much and then couldn't recreate using photoshop on my desktop.  art is where you find it, i guess.

Yup. I've done things with Filterstorm I was unable to exactly reproduce on my mac. No serious editing is done with the ipad, but for drafts and photos for social sites it's a great tool.

Mar 08 12 01:13 pm Link

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ChristerArt

Posts: 2861

Cambridge, England, United Kingdom

I just saw this:

Verizon including mobile hotspot in iPad data plans at no additional charge

“As expected, Apple’s new iPad 3rd generation tablet is available with sweet and speedy 4G LTE from Verizon Wireless and AT&T. Tim Cook also announced that customers will be able to use the tablet as a mobile hotspot as well — that’s even better,” K. T. Bradford reports for Gotta Be Mobile.

“Verizon Wireless spokesperson Brenda Raney [told me]: The tablet data plans include the mobile hotspot just as they do today,” Bradford reports. “Data plans begin at 2GB for $30 and go to 10 GB for $80 and includes the mobile hot spot. The iPads have one additional option of 1GB for $20.”


Jordan Kahn reports for 9to5Mac, “Verizon Spokeman Albert Aydin told us: ‘The new iPad on the Verizon Wireless network will have the mobile hotspot feature. Our 4G LTE tablets have the mobile hotspot feature and it is included in the tablet data plans so for example, customers who sign up for the $30 for 2GB plan will also have access to the mobile hotspot feature.’”

http://macdailynews.com/2012/03/08/veri … al-charge/

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Mar 08 12 01:25 pm Link

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ChristerArt

Posts: 2861

Cambridge, England, United Kingdom

By the way, I came across what looks like a good model release app:

http://www.releasemeapp.com/

Check out the video.


Christer

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http://www.ChristerArt.com

Mar 08 12 02:46 pm Link

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FootNote Fotography

Posts: 18809

Gainesville, Florida, US

I honestly dont see a reason to upgrade unless: You *need* the screen resolution, i.e. photographers, or you need an ipad that does not have 3g/4g, I still have my wifi ipad first gen. I really was planning on getting the three. But after reading it, yeah its an improvement, but nothing that would warrant spending $500 when I already have a working one.

Mar 08 12 02:50 pm Link

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FootNote Fotography

Posts: 18809

Gainesville, Florida, US

Faulty Focus wrote:

I have an Ipad 2 and a Blackberry Playbook. I had the Ipad first, then bought the Playbook because I like my BB phone so much. Now my Ipad 2 has not been used for a month, yet I use the Playbook daily.  I prefer it to the Ipad, so after carrying both for 4 months, the Playbook is the winner for me.

Why do you say that? I honestly do want to know, not as a shot at the playbook.

I have had BB's before and like them. I like the size of the playbook but honestly saw nothing great about it.

Mar 08 12 02:52 pm Link

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Lars R Peterson

Posts: 1085

Seattle, Washington, US

Moon Pix Photography wrote:
...  I spent just over $1,000 building a computer that would have cost me at least $5,000 if it were an Apple product.

I think your numbers are grossly exaggerated.

Mar 08 12 03:16 pm Link

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Quang Dang

Posts: 2966

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

ChristerArt wrote:
I think you've been drinking Android Cool aid..=*^)

You should perhaps read this article from Tech.pinions:

A couple of excerpts:

Every Android smartphone owner who goes gaga over their somewhat high resolution screen should thank Apple. The Retina display kicked off the trend of higher resolution phone displays. Once consumers saw, and are still captivated by that screen, it became very hard for a device to be successful at the mid to high end without a high resolution screen.


The same will now be true of tablets. There will now be a resolution race to catch up with Apple’s Retina display on the new iPad. Which you absolutely have to see to believe. There has never been such a high resolution display on a mobile device and seeing such clarity and image quality on a bigger screen changes the experience with the device in a way I never imagined."


and

Apple on the other hand, has what I now consider an insurmountable lead with iPad apps and it will be at least two years, if not longer for other ecosystems to even get close. Even if they did Apple won’t stand still and two years from now their software ecosystem will be even bigger and stronger.

The iPhoto demo alone on the iPad was one of the best software demonstrations I have seen in some time and perhaps the best example of the value of touch computing to date. And by the way its $4.99. If nothing else Apple proved that with software the possibilities are endless with this new category of computing. And hopefully now it is clear to the masses that the iPad is a personal computer and not just for consumption. (Teaser: more on that in my column tomorrow )

So how do others compete? Honestly, at this point in time I am not sure. Apple’s vertically oriented strategy gives them such an advantage that makes competing with them, especially in tablets, extremely difficult.

More here:

http://techpinions.com/the-new-ipad-lea … ehind/5861

Christer

http://www.ChristerRosewellPhotography.com
http://www.ChristerArt.com

To me, Apple has raised the bar high with the new iPad and the demo of iPhoto yesterday was great. Today I heard some friend and co-worker complaining about it, saying they are dissappointed. Probably cause they already own an iPad 2 or 1 and malbe they were expected a new case design and thinner or whatever other reason. Well if you own iPad 2 or 1 and fit for your needs then fine. But once they see the new one on Mac stores, they will probably change their mind...

Btw, I'm not against any other brands (buy whatever you want folks) but to me, the others brands are just cloned, they don't invented or revolutionized anything, they just copied the ideas. As a matter of fact, most people will always remember the original owner not the clone version which sells a bit cheaper. I'm also not sure what the others competitors will do, but Samsung will cut&paste the Retina screen ideas, make it a bit better, different size of course. As far as I can see, Playbook, Sony, etc. will die soon, their price will drop down...

Mar 08 12 05:11 pm Link

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Quang Dang

Posts: 2966

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

FootNote Fotography wrote:

Why do you say that? I honestly do want to know, not as a shot at the playbook.

I have had BB's before and like them. I like the size of the playbook but honestly saw nothing great about it.

Since you had BB can you tell me what exactly why did you buy it (its strength)? Some people will buy it due to the price cause it's cheaper?

Mar 08 12 05:20 pm Link

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Brian Diaz

Posts: 65617

Danbury, Connecticut, US

ChristerArt wrote:
Apple on the other hand, has what I now consider an insurmountable lead with iPad apps and it will be at least two years, if not longer for other ecosystems to even get close. Even if they did Apple won’t stand still and two years from now their software ecosystem will be even bigger and stronger.

I disagree with this.  I haven't seen any Apple app that doesn't have an equivalent Android app.  True, there are some specific, big name apps that are Apple only (I'm glaring at you, Instagram) but there are Android apps that do all the same stuff.  And, since there's less of a barrier to entry, there is more experimentation going on in Android apps. 

It may not be the same as the average consumer's perspective, but from my perspective, Android has the superior app ecosystem.

Mar 09 12 07:15 am Link

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ChristerArt

Posts: 2861

Cambridge, England, United Kingdom

Brian Diaz wrote:

I disagree with this.  I haven't seen any Apple app that doesn't have an equivalent Android app.  True, there are some specific, big name apps that are Apple only (I'm glaring at you, Instagram) but there are Android apps that do all the same stuff.  And, since there's less of a barrier to entry, there is more experimentation going on in Android apps. 

It may not be the same as the average consumer's perspective, but from my perspective, Android has the superior app ecosystem.

That's not what those who deal with tech issues every day think - but you are of course free to have your opinions.

I suppose that's why the Android app store is said to make between 7 % and 25% of the money the Apple app store does:

http://www.iphonehacks.com/2011/11/anal … venue.html

http://pocketnow.com/iphone/apples-app- … oid-market

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11 … parts.html

http://modmyi.com/content/6238-ios-apps … lents.html

and:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12 … _apps.html


I didn't write what you quoted above - I am just repeating what the industry say about it and I think they probably have a lot better idea about this than I do.


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Mar 09 12 07:33 am Link

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Dan K Photography

Posts: 5581

STATEN ISLAND, New York, US

ChristerArt wrote:
That's not what those who deal with tech issues every day think - but you are of course free to have your opinions.

I suppose that's why the Android app store is said to make between 7 % and 25% of the money the Apple app store does:

http://www.iphonehacks.com/2011/11/anal … venue.html

http://pocketnow.com/iphone/apples-app- … oid-market

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11 … parts.html

http://modmyi.com/content/6238-ios-apps … lents.html

and:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12 … _apps.html


I didn't write what you quoted above - I am just repeating what the industry say about it and I think they probably have a lot better idea about this than I do.


Christer

http://www.ChristerRosewellPhotography.com
http://www.ChristerArt.com

I fail to see how what you wrote has anything to do with the points he made. What does app sales comparisons between the two platforms have to do with there being equivalent apps on both of them?

Mar 09 12 07:37 am Link