Stephen Melvin wrote:
They all go through the chipper just the same...

Why? Who that model shoots with or the assignments they take after they are signed has nothing to do with them.... ??

oldguysrule wrote:
i've brought many people into agencies. i've taken a fee from agencies for doing so. i've never and would never use that as a pitch point.

Agreed, but several people here do.

oldguysrule wrote:
if someone shoots for or scouts for an agency, that's fine. however, the moment that is the shooter's pitch...

i've brought many people into agencies. i've taken a fee from agencies for doing so. i've never and would never use that as a pitch point.

Thanks, please explain....

Jack North wrote:
I think for the purposes of MM, if you do not create, monitor and respond for a models profile, you aren't a sluggo.

chip chip chip,   oooo it hurts a lot

chip chip chip,  ooo  a tender spot

chip chip cihp    answering all of her maaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiillllll

amazing  sluggo  pitching control of the model,
amazing sluggo  what a show  for sale.

Jack North wrote:
I think for the purposes of MM, if you do not create, monitor and respond for a models profile, you aren't a sluggo.

well i suppose so long as you are not actually doing the responding, but i have to say a lot of models routinely ask me:

"can you write or create a cool bio for me?" or
"how should i respond to this photog?" or
"should i do a TFP with that photog?", or etc

and i routinely give them my 'consigliere' advice

Jay Farrell wrote:

Thanks, please explain....

i would avoid photographers who pitch themselves as scouts rather than relying on their photography as the strength of their pitch. this is whether they are scouting for agencies, magazines, or whatever.

if you require further explanation, private message me.

Jay Farrell wrote:
Thanks Jack....No I do not plan on doing any of that....I shoot for a local model and talent agency, and have brought models to them....so they are going to give me talent scout training and I get a commission for any talent signed......but I have nothing to do with their careers and what not after that, once i am done shooting them.....all that is pretty far removed from the internet anyhow......though some may wind up here too.....so what you are saying is as long as I don't lure girls here with that, I'm ok....?

i would say yep. i see no reason why photographers who shoot for and have relationships with agencies are, by default, bad... as TX said, unfortunately many do use these relationships to pitch their services, and some use it to attempt to establish some continuing relationship with the models they shoot.

oldguysrule wrote:

i would avoid photographers who pitch themselves as scouts rather than relying on their photography as the strength of their pitch. this is whether they are scouting for agencies, magazines, or whatever.

if you require further explanation, private message me.

Understood, and that makes sense.....thanks again!

Chili wrote:

well i suppose so long as you are not actually doing the responding, but i have to say a lot of models routinely ask me:

"can you write or create a cool bio for me?" or
"how should i respond to this photog?" or
"should i do a TFP with that photog?", or etc

and i routinely give them my 'consigliere' advice

yes, that is normal stuff. I think you can even be their 'manager', just don't run a profile for them.