Photographer
Brian Diaz
Posts: 65617
Danbury, Connecticut, US
This forum is for those wanting to give or thorough, serious critiques (hence the name). BS won't be tolerated. If you post here, be prepared to give well thought out and helpful responses.
Photographer
Halcyon 7174 NYC
Posts: 20109
New York, New York, US
Serious Critiques is for the more formal full-portfolio, full album, or deeply critical multi-shot recent work critiques. Be sure to state your career objective and/or artistic goals. "Which image should be my avatar," "which are my best/worst," "what images should I delete to shrink my portfolio," etc. go in the main General Feedback section, not here. If the main feedback section is "short attention span theater," this part is supposed to be the exact opposite. This applies to responses as well as critique requests. If it's short and sweet, it needs to be deep. Simply pointing out best and worst is not a valid critique here, you need to be able to articulate why and how it can be fixed. If you see problem threads, please use the CAM system to report them with the "forum issue" label here: https://www.modelmayhem.com/contactamod.php Thank you for your help and cooperation. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - A self-help guide is here: Things We Keep Coming Back To - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Critique Section Guidelines - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Artists come to the critique area for help, not for pointless berating. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - BAD CRITIQUE: "Your work sucks." GOOD CRITIQUE: "I think your work sucks because..." BAD CRITIQUE: "It's all amazing, good job!" GOOD CRITIQUE: "I'm impressed by your work, the {X} is amazing because {Y}. Good job!" BAD CRITIQUE: "A naked girl doesn't make a good photo. You're nothing but a GWC." GOOD CRITIQUE: "Your images are all {X} and {Y}, and your portfolio lacks {Z}." - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - KEY GUIDELINES* {1} Do not call someone else's critique invalid based on the quality of their own work. You will be warned the first time, and possibly banned from the critique section for repeat violations. If it is that obvious, then it is that obvious, so don't make an issue. {2} Do not repeat posts. Do not bump your own post to the top of the list more than once a day. Do not create more than one new request for critique thread per day. {3} Do not call anyone a GWC or put down any person in the critique section. Photographers starting out often try to copy what they've seen, and the results can always be haphazard and look bad even when the photographer has the best of intentions. {4} Do not just ask for love. Do not just ask for people to post comments on your pics pages. Do not just ask for tags. There is an Announcements feature on the front page and the Shoutbox is also available for this sort of thing. This is a place to ask for serious help and advice toward improving your work. * These are guidelines, not rules. Following them is more courtesy than urgency. Hopefully by following them you will help keep the section from becoming unruly. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - THINGS TO REMEMBER Use discretion when requesting a critique. Do not come to the critique thread with camera phone pictures, webcam pictures, or unclear snapshots. Be specific in requesting a critique. If you are requesting a critique on a specific image, then link to it in your post. If you are requesting a general analysis of your portfolio, then post a link to your pics page.
KM von Seidl wrote: If someone asks, "what do you think of photo 1," my question is, what am I looking at? What am I looking for? Why did you take the shot, what was it's purpose? You trying fashion, glamour, a specific lighting technique? As a model are you trying to present yourself in a certain way? How is someone supposed to offer help or observations on something so nebulous as "what do you think?" When critiquing, remain on topic and be specific, polite, and helpful. Respond directly to the original poster at least until the thread has gone past 41 posts (when a second page appears). Do not argue with other respondents about their critiques or attack their work and credibility. Use a critique thread to comment only on photos or aspects of photos which the OP has requested critique upon. If you have negative opinion of their other images, just let it go. If you wish to dispense with this rule, ask the permission of the person requesting a critique before launching into a tirade. Disagree with the critique of others in a respectful manner. Remember that critiques can be extremely stressful, and adding to that stress by flaming other users is not allowed. When you request a critique, you are opening yourself up to aggressive criticism of your work and techniques. If someone says something unfavorable about your work, that does not give you the right to cop an attitude with them, or to critique their work in return. In posting in the critique section you are asking for come what may: the good, the bad, and the ugly. When you give a critique, it does not need to be all positive, that would be rather pointless. You are asked to make constructive comments. Simply saying work is bad does not help anyone and makes you look petty. Say why you hold with a certain opinion and provide details. Do not make it personal or take it as personal. That is a site-wide rule, but in here it is doubly strict. The character of the artist requesting critique is not up for critique. Stick to the image or images which the artist requesting a critique has indicated. It is usually best to critique only the work of the person requesting on in the first post of a thread. Attacking the critique of another poster is forbidden. That includes attacking the credibility of someoneâs critique because of their apparent ability (or lack thereof). Keep in mind, the thread is for the benefit of the original poster, so all comments should really be directed at them, and the sole purpose of those comments should be to answer their questions and to help them improve. When you are critiqued take the critiques to heart. People are coming to your thread to help you improve. Even if you disagree with someone's critique, really think about what they suggest to you, and do not discount someone's opinion because you find their work to be sub par. Others often see what you've looked past, regardless of their apparent skill level. If someone starts getting hostile in their critique of your work, do not get into an argument with them. Either thank them for their input, or ignore them. Getting into childish arguments only serves to make you look bad, even if they started it. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - REFERENCE My critiques suck! Do yours? https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=10349 How do you critique? https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=8294 Something to go on in the critique forum https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=9314 critique etiquette and other good reading. https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=14426 Should there be some general rules here..? https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=7336
commart wrote: Editors and teachers often have a tough choice to make between a) serving their profession and b) doing what's best for the talent or student. In leisure and recreational settings (and, alas, some college majors), encouragement and interest in process may prevail. In business and professional settings, interest in the success or maintenance of the state-of-the-art in the enterprise may be considered more important than the individual: that's a call where one may have obligations to principle (high craft standards; high expectations about talent and its development) or to an audience or investors, in which case talent may be asked to deliver or disappear. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
guidelines written and edited by Kaitlin Lara and Ched https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=58120 https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=7174 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Useful threads from other areas of the site: UdoR's "Modeling Success: RESEARCH" https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=76842 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - from the Blown Highlights thread in Photography (https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=90229)
J n X Photography wrote: I was at the bookstore a few days ago and saw a book about a Sports Illustrated photog and all the swimsuit models he's shot for their swimsuit edition magazines. I saw a TON of blown out highlights...for you pros out there, why is this acceptable out there in the real world but when I read critique comments (mine and others) it's frowned upon here? Ched_ wrote: This is complicated, but I will attempt to explain. If you are a beginner asking for a critique here on MM, I'm going to put your work in a zone of theoretical technical perfection and see what sticks outside the box. I'll then tell you where you're missing the mark and usually why and how as well. You go back and try again, return with new problems, and I analyze the new images for what is outside the zone. Eventually you will develop a level of mental control over the camera and your subjects. You'll know what works and what doesn't, and the pictures you were taking when you started will look amateurish to you fairly soon. Once you start taking pictures that are in the zone (don't have any major flaws) on a regular basis, you have learned a level of control. Once you have control, you can start breaking out of the box and getting back to why you started taking pictures in the first place. Think about, The Karate Kid, "Wax on. Wax off. Wax on. Wax off. Wax on. Wax off." You learn the moves, then you can innovate. I know of no law against busy unbalanced compositions, no law against not having the subject's eyes in focus, and no law against blown highlights. However, to take interesting pictures with the confidence required to get what you want when you press the shutter release, knowing how to control compositions, focus, and exposure is very important. When I give advice in the critique section, I proceed with the assumption that every photographer needs to get to a point where clicking the shutter release is the most boring thing imaginable, because before you touch it you will already know exactly what the picture is going to look like in the end. Planning the shot and looking at the print in the end are the real fun parts. Execution of the concept in photography is like, if you're a chef and you are cooking a meal: coming up with the menu and recipes and then later tasting the finished product with a bunch of friends is fun. Doing the work in the kitchen is just work. You need to learn the photography equvalent of "chicken broth needs salt, but a tablespoon of rock salt poured into two cups of chicken broth is not going to royally suck and be ineddible, but a tablespoon of rock salt coating the outside of a baked potato will make it good." You need to know cause and effect in the process of photography for the same reasons you do in cooking. This explains both amateur snapshot photography and also the popularity of tv dinners. Blowing out a highlight accidentally because you didn't know how to get the right exposure and blowing out a highlight intentionally to emphasize a model's musculature are two very different things. List of emoticons: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - No begging for tags in Critique! https://www.modelmayhem.com/p.php?thread_id=214461
"On the one hand, the friend who is familiar with every fact of the story may think that some point has not been set forth with that fullness which he wishes and knows it to deserve; on the other, he who is a stranger to the matter may be led by envy to suspect exaggeration if he hears anything above his own nature. For men can endure to hear others praised only so long as they can severally persuade themselves of their own ability to equal the actions recounted: when this point is passed, envy comes in and with it incredulity." - Pericles of Athens
Photographer
HalfMoonColorado
Posts: 797
Murrells Inlet, South Carolina, US
And don't post an x. What's up with that?
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2463
San Antonio, Texas, US
Model
Malcolm Brown
Posts: 8
Edwardsville, Illinois, US
I wouldn't mind a critique
Photographer
Simple Pics Photography
Posts: 8
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Being new to MM I would appreciate any constructive criticism. If you are harsh I am not going to sell my camera tomorrow so let me know what you think and how I can improve my work,. Thanks
Model
Algea
Posts: 6
Cascais, Lisboa e Vale do Tejo, Portugal
I am also new so if anyone would like to help me improve by criticizing my 'portfolio' I'm up for it ^^
Model
NiyahSimone
Posts: 2
Cincinnati, Ohio, US
I would love constructive criticism! I just want to be better
Photographer
Elizabeth S Boyle
Posts: 5
Guildford, England, United Kingdom
thanks for posting the Rules. I would like some critique on lighting. is that possible? thanks. Sarah
Model
Meganme7878
Posts: 3
Chicago, Illinois, US
Serious opinion on my profile? What could I improve/get rid of?
Photographer
J Mark Collection 2014
Posts: 10
Catalina, Arizona, US
it would be very valuable to hear what other artists, photographers and models think of my works posted at MM. If anyone would care to give it a shot, please scan my photos and paintings and lend me your thoughts. I would be most appreciative. JM
Photographer
NEXT LEVEL FIERCE
Posts: 13
East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, US
I was always told to stay away from having "Tunnel Vision" so the horse blinders are off and I'm trying my best to be the best photographer I can be. Explain what I'm doing wrong. All critiques are welcomed. Fire away!
Photographer
cc production
Posts: 12
Huntington Beach, California, US
Would love to have some people tell me what they think of my images.
Model
Nikki Nukkem
Posts: 9
North Atlanta, Georgia, US
I am just getting back in to modeling after about 20 years out. Now that I am an "old" lady, was hoping to get some feed back on how to do do a better job. Looking for more paid assignments that are with reputable photographers and agencies. I am particularly interested in vintage looks, but I am not stuck on that genre. Please help by taking a look at my photos to give serious feed back.
Photographer
Lallure Photographic
Posts: 2086
Taylors, South Carolina, US
So, since I only do serious critiques, I guess it doesn't matter if I just use the general critique section, in the first place.
Model
Josh Royston
Posts: 4
Greenville, South Carolina, US
I would love some critique. Don't hold back, I'm an adult. lol
Model
DeAnneRoye
Posts: 5
Miami, Florida, US
I really wanted to get some real feedback on my portfolio. I do a lot of lifestyle print, and some catalog work and commercial work. My career goal is to be a consistent working model and I would love to see in ways I can grow to get more lifestyle work, and more catalog work, and eventually also beauty contracts.
Model
TesDiamonds_
Posts: 1
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
I would like if some people could tell me the positives and negatives about the pictures i have posted right now. i have aspirations to model big time mainly exotic and sexy shots. Here's my link, let me know what you think by commenting on the photos. Link----->http://www.modelmayhem.com/TesDiamonds Yours truly, Tes Diamonds
Clothing Designer
Justin Gage Photostudio
Posts: 7
Cannes, Provence-Alpes-Côte-d'Azur, France
please look at my MM and my website and critique my work. I would like to improve the quality of my images. My goal is to become the best Commercial portraiture photographer on the French Riviera. I would like to work mostly in high fashion editorials. I want to have a unique photography style that can be recognizable by the viewers. Best regards, Justin Gage www.justingagephotostudio.com
Clothing Designer
Justin Gage Photostudio
Posts: 7
Cannes, Provence-Alpes-Côte-d'Azur, France
TesDiamonds_ wrote: I would like if some people could tell me the positives and negatives about the pictures i have posted right now. i have aspirations to model big time mainly exotic and sexy shots. Here's my link, let me know what you think by commenting on the photos. Link----->http://www.modelmayhem.com/TesDiamonds Yours truly, Tes Diamonds Hello, I looked at your pictures. I think you have some good potential. Some poses are really artistic and complimentary. My advise would be to keep on working with different photographers and find one who's style you like. I think at the end of the day, it is the photographers eye and post processing that is going to give you the best image. I think the picture of you standing shirtless is by far your best photo. But that has to do with the composition of the photo more than anything else. You may also want to consider hiring someone to do some head shots. Otherwise, Just keep on putting yourself out there and keep exploring different creative poses.
Photographer
steeliejim
Posts: 1
Sacramento, California, US
Not sure how to do this or where to go. But, I am a photographer, and sent a photo of a most amazing, stunning young woman for your weekly contest. However, it was rejected supposedly because the gestapo here claimed she wasn't over 18. I've seen her id. and yes, she is carded all the time, but her birthday is 04-04-90. What the heck gives? I did not see anywhere some proof of age is required. Help!!!!
Model
MeganHaggerty
Posts: 1
Oakdale, New York, US
Hello! My name's Megan and I'm fairly new to Modeling.. I would absolutely adore and appreciate some constructive criticism on my portfolio thus far. When I refer to criticism I am talking about posing, facial expressions and even hair and makeup because of the fact that I have done my own hair and makeup for every photo shoot I have participated in. Thanks so much
Model
Davis Benz
Posts: 1
San Francisco, California, US
Let me know what you think of my portfolio/profile! It would mean a lot
Model
Joannee
Posts: 96
Freehold, New Jersey, US
What pictures should I get rid of ,? Which should be my avi? What types of shoots should I be doing to update my portfolio ? thank you
Model
Asianmodel
Posts: 29
Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands
I asked for some critique about my portfolio and one photographer (I wish I could remember his name) he said really nasty things about my body. I am sure he is very ugly as hell. It really made me sad . Some assholes come here to critique someone to make them feel like a piece of shit. Please respect each Other!
Model
Joannee
Posts: 96
Freehold, New Jersey, US
i would love some feedback
Photographer
VeeA
Posts: 67
Manassas, Virginia, US
Id love some feedback on what im displaying as of now? I would love to generate more traffic and just connect/network with others!! I try and pride myself on balance and keeping a versatile portfolio!! I have my big boy pants on so ill be taking it all in stride. Thanks
Model
La Heidi
Posts: 6
Arvika, Värmland, Sweden
Deseo que tanto los modelos como fotógrafos hagan críticas constructivas sobre mi trabajo.😉
Model
La Monica
Posts: 4
Baltimore, Maryland, US
I would love some good criticism! Just want to develop more where needed.
Artist/Painter
JCML Fine Art
Posts: 2
Watford, England, United Kingdom
I am a painter working on my Junior review gallery show at Southwest Minnesota State University. I am looking for edits and critiques for my automatic drawings. Theses works will blend from their abstract state into realistic images and back again. I am looking for models for these works. Any edits in composition would significantly help me focus on which parts need the models the most and which parts should be left out or should stay in their abstract form. Thanks for looking, Michellerose Cusack JCML Fine Art
Model
Feariel
Posts: 3
New York, New York, US
Hello, I'd love some critique if anyone's willing! Thanks in advance. Best, Feariel
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