|
Forums >
Hair, Makeup & Styling >
Does Designer = Gay? If not why the stigma?
Why is it that everyone assumes that you are gay if you are a male designer? Sterotypes?! Feb 03 06 02:19 am Link Struggle Dezign Co wrote: Could it be the proliferation of designers on tv that are the epitome of gayness?! HEHE! You know...because TV is the all mighty truth! Feb 03 06 02:36 am Link This is one de facto ("from the facts") reason I once heard... Most designers seem to choose immeasurably lanky women on which to drape their creations. Now, this makes very little sense, as those proportions alienate much more potential public clientele than models who reflect the general population would. What reasons would they have, then - other than the fashion industry seems a self-contained life form, and hardly needs public empathy at times - for setting such an irrelevant standard? Someone told me it's because such models best resemble youthful, healthy-looking males. So, if they're surrounding themselves by those, it can't be for any reason other than homosexuality. Interesting theory; not judging whether or not there's truth to it, though... However - any other reason to promote generally un-Darwinian body images would make me a little more upset and rather unempathetic... so I like to tell myself it's true :-P Sonntag ~dissolved in delusion Feb 03 06 02:56 am Link cause most of them are.. ps and why are you concern about it? your sexuality should have nothing to do with your profession (unless you a stripper or a hooker) lol Feb 03 06 03:22 am Link cause straight guys just aren't as talented. Feb 03 06 03:49 am Link Sean Armenta wrote: Bulls^*t! I am straight and I am "The TRUTH" in fashion! Feb 03 06 03:53 am Link Struggle Dezign Co wrote: oh my bad... i didn't know. Feb 03 06 04:01 am Link Ray Filipowicz wrote: I agree with Ray! I am heterosexual but definitely NOT homophobic. All that should matter is your talent and your character. Feb 03 06 04:33 am Link This has nothing to do with homophobia, just sterotypes. People often are shocked of the fact that heterosexual Men can do fashions very well. Thats all...Calm down don't be so defensive, it appears questionable. Feb 03 06 04:40 am Link Cause gay guys are allowed to see girls' boobies. Feb 03 06 04:49 am Link Brian Diaz wrote: Ha Ha Ha! Good 1. Feb 03 06 04:51 am Link Brian Diaz wrote: LOL Feb 03 06 04:52 am Link elisaveta â wrote: Straight MUA: "I'm...er...just gonna...um...touch up...the bronzer on your...umm...well...d'ecolletage." Feb 03 06 04:59 am Link Brian Diaz wrote: That's why I love gay make-up artists! Feb 03 06 05:05 am Link elisaveta â wrote: Me neither. Diaz has the best one liners. Feb 03 06 05:08 am Link Struggle Dezign Co wrote: Becuase many men that design are gay... It's just that simple... Fashion is one of the few professions where many can ply their trade and be judged by the quality Feb 03 06 05:12 am Link When did the Big Change occur? Meaning back in the very early days lets say, 30's - 50's the male designers, formerly known as, Tailors were known or appeared to be Straight Men in suits. When did the Big Gay Bang occur or was it all just an illusion? (That was a hot song back in the day.....its just an illus-ion) Feb 03 06 05:24 am Link Struggle Dezign Co wrote: I tend to think of the early days as being classic Greece, and from what I recall about history, the Big Gay Bang was happening then. Why do you think he was called Alexander the Great? Feb 03 06 05:44 am Link I think it's nothing personal, or malicious, it's just that all designers are homosexual. Except you. And two or three other guys (jury's still out on one of them). I can't help thinking there's a way you could turn this to your advantage... EDIT: I've got it: a reality show. "Straight Spy on the Queer Guys" Feb 03 06 05:46 am Link Ray Filipowicz wrote: Lots of strippers are gay. Feb 03 06 11:24 am Link Generally it makes my work easier if they assume I'm gay, by the time I'm talking about my wife and kids they don't feel threatened by the fact that I am painting parts of them that they generally keep hidden. In my work as a day care teacher and face painter it was often assumed I was gay as well, could have to do with the fact that I am quiet, respectful, and not into many "manly" persuits like baseball, hunting, or race cars...who knows. I do know that there are some REALLY good straight MUA's and hair stylists, but we are not a majority for sure. Actually...when attending a hair show a while back I got a taste of what it is like to be in a minority and have people make assumptions about you. It wasn't all that unpleasant for me, but I realized that it must be a real pain in the ass to deal with people making assumptions about you all the time based on who you happen to want in your bedroom. But then again...I've happily painted rainbows on drag queens for Pride Day, so I may not be the poster boy for straight men. I also get people who don't understand that I can paint women without being aroused. I guess my point is, what you do in the bedroom can be completely separate from what you do when you work. To each their own. Feb 03 06 11:58 am Link well when i whent to school there was only one guy in my class and some of the girls gave him a really hard time becaue his fashion make-up wasnt as creative or elegant as some of my class mates. I never understood why they were so mean to him. He did take the program for the fail make-up only but had to take the fashion classes too. His work did improve and he did do really nice stuff once the "bi#@%es" left him alone. We ended up working alot together and I must say he is very talented. He's not Gay but that dosent matter . I had 3 males make-up teaches 2 were gay and one was straight and there wasnt anything techincally differnt if them only thier styles are a bit differnt. the non gay teacher had to be much more PC and watch whay he said but the gay teachers could pritty much say what ever they wanted to say. I have worked with both straigth and gay stylists and make-up artists and photographers. I must admit that at least the gay one's seem to be easier to work with. They dont worry as much about what they say or do. i'm not sure if its because they are gay or not it's more an attitude thing. Not a Gay thing but thats just my 2 cents Feb 03 06 02:01 pm Link I assume because in past times men weren't expected to prep up there looks Feb 03 06 03:07 pm Link elisaveta ? wrote: Design is a business. I have been an industrial designer, engineer and inventor for over 25 years. I have designed anything from commercial fishing equipment and kitchen appliances to truck components and industrial shipping containers. Designing clothing to me is just another product. I does not make me gay. I know a number of people who design and manufacture clothing out here in the Northwest who are not gay. I can't even say that I personally know any clothing designers who are gay. I think the stereotype comes from a small number of popular gay designers over the years. - And certain TV shows. Feb 03 06 03:33 pm Link Sean Armenta wrote: ROTFLMAO!!!!!! Feb 04 06 09:47 pm Link Brian Diaz wrote: OMG....that is so you Brian...No wonder you Feb 04 06 10:55 pm Link Next time I go to NYC...we will have to get an MUA (gay or straight don't matter) and a bodypainter and then we can see what happens... Feb 04 06 11:02 pm Link Brian Diaz wrote: I am dieing laughing over here!!! My male MUA tells me things like... Feb 04 06 11:11 pm Link i'm intrested Feb 04 06 11:19 pm Link well, I havent worked with a straight male stylist or makeup artist yet but I know theyre out there. The most fun I have ever had on a job was with gay stylists...You have no idea how fun people can be until you watch a short African American gay stylist try to show a model how to walk the runway in 6 inch stilettos....or watch a gay hair stylist deliver witty remarks to an unruley model. With out these precious moments I couldnt have survived this industry.  There is nobody I would rather work with then a gay stylist, artist, hairstylist. Now that I think about it my hairstylist is straight, but I don't work with him, he just does my hair....hes metro-sexual though, you know, he dresses really nice and has crazy hair and jewlery. Hes a lot of fun....I just think artsits are a lot of fun straight, gay, or some where in between.....I mean look at the stylists forum and look at the rest of the board...it's pretty clear who the fun people are. Feb 04 06 11:57 pm Link Struggle Dezign Co wrote: ha try me Feb 05 06 12:03 am Link Brian Diaz wrote: i see them too, i'm not gay Feb 05 06 12:03 am Link Brian Diaz wrote: Crazier Benny wrote: What is the big deal? Feb 05 06 12:12 am Link Sean Armenta wrote: Feb 05 06 12:13 am Link MHana wrote: Brian Diaz wrote: What is the big deal? lol you said "get a grip" about boobies hahahaha Feb 05 06 12:14 am Link Mary wrote: I love my gays. Feb 05 06 12:14 am Link Mary wrote: hi my name is Benny and I can do that too Feb 05 06 12:17 am Link Well I am going to ring in here........I am a Clothing Designer /MUA /Photographer and I am also a cock smoker.........This thread is fairly silly......... To answer the original question..........I don't think that everyone assumes that all designers are gay...... If someone is assuming that you are gay look for a reason within your self........Not at your chosen profession. Good gods Y'all Feb 05 06 04:15 am Link benson wrote: Feb 12 06 07:45 am Link benson wrote: I do not agree with this statement Feb 12 06 10:27 am Link |
What about make-up artists, many are gay too??? (I just want to read BD's come back) 
)
